Some people just don't get it. Long Post

[thump_rrr]

Geez, I can't afford all that.

But I bet I can still outshoot you.

[thump, my friend: Funny that you rant about some guy who's a snob about a $2500 rifle,
and then list your $2500 worth of gear lots of us can't afford.]


P.S. Are those US dollars, or Canada dollars?

The Canadian dollar is worth about the same as the US dollar these days.

I never said I can't afford to spend $3,000. I can't afford to spend it on one rifle since it would limit the amount of money I could spend on this hobby as a whole.

I have Carpal Tunnel Syndrome which is why I purchased the Hornady LnL AP Progressive press and the Dillon Rotary Trimmer.
Everything I can do to minimize the strain on my hands is worth it for me.
I'm an HVAC mechanic so my hands are my livelyhood.

The difference is I don't look negatively on someone who choses a less expensive option.
As a matter of fact I think that the Lee 50th Aniversary Kit is one of the best deals out there when it comes to reloading.
I recommend it to many people at the club who haven't gotten into reloading yet.

I'm sure that there are many 10 year olds out there that could outshoot me but that doesn't take away from the fun I have when I'm out on the range.

 

[clutch]

So gun snobbery isn't just an American thing.

Don't let the guy get under your skin. Take that Norinco and practice with it. If it shoots good, your groups will be all that needs said.

Have you listened to Canadian Reload Radio podcast?

Clutch

 

[hermannr]

Hej Trump rr....important question first...has Harper kept his promise and gotten rid of that stupid 1995 long gun registration etc gun control act?

Born in Canada (BC) myself, my sister and BIL and a bunch of cousins still live up there (BC and Alberta) niece lives in Ontario,,,

oh yes, I know Canadian gun law, and it stinks. My BIL is a shooter too, and actually owns more firearms than I do, but I can use mine, I can hunt with my pistols, I can carry my pistols, loaded, concealed or openly on my hip most anywhere I want...he can't do that. He can only shoot his at his gun club.

I know your pain, and I know what you had to go through to get to where you are, and I congratulate you on that. Don't let a petty snob ruin your fun. Go do what you want, with what you have. There is nothing wrong with any of it. My pistols are CZ's and Colts, so what? I like them. MY BIL likes S&W. You have a 1911, I hope you like yours as much as I like mine...(BTW: I don't like race guns, but I would not say that to one's owner, not cool...)

But the big question is...Harper???? is he doing his job? He has his majority now, there are no more excuses. BIL and Cousins haven't told me/?????

 

[Prince Yamato]

I wish we could get Norinco AR-15s down here.

 

[BigDaddyNEB]

I would rather have a $800-1000 gun and spend another $1000 on ammo, and use it to actually train myself to hit a target I'm aiming at. Just because you can afford to buy a set of $5000 custom made golf clubs, that isn't going to make you Phil Mikkleson.

 

[dogrunner]

You said it BD.............its a poor workman that blames his tools!!

 

[thump_rrr]

Hey Thump rrr....important question first...has Harper kept his promise and gotten rid of that stupid 1995 long gun registration etc gun control act?

The long gun registry is supposed to be abolished in the fall sitting of parliament.
That's when we'll see if he sticks to his promises.

He never promised to abolish bill C-68 but we need to take it one step at a time

 

[GEM]

To the OP - and not the politics of Canada - the guy was a show off jerk who thought he had the sacred knowledge and wanted to engage in some primate dominance.

A tale - years ago, I went for a job interview. The potential boss was macho super jock. And a jerk - we were supposed to go out for dinner but he said we would go to his house and have macaroni and cheese that his wife makes. Then he could pocket the dinner expenses.

At dinner - jerko asks me what sports I play. Obviously, the key question in his mind. I had just started tennis. He asks - what kind of racket did you get? I said - a generic JC Penny's racket (no need to pay big bucks if I didn't like it).

He says - That is NO Good. You should have asked me first!

I think - HOW, in a time machine, you darn moron!

So he was jerk - get the picture.

Got a better job elsewhere. So enjoy what you shoot, the jerk is just that. Have fun.

 

[Cosmoline]

Thump--good you you for sticking to it over there.

I have other responsibilities and hobbies which do not permit me to spend $3,000-$4,000 on a first rifle. Should I not be able to go out and enjoy myself like everyone else?

Certainly. I think you should use this incident to spur you to compete. Remember, revenge is a dish best served with a rifle that costs 1/5th what your opponent's rifle cost.

To paraphrase Duke Ellington, if it shoots good, it is good.

 

[THe Dove]

I live in Canada where our gun laws are much more strict and prices on firearms and accessories are much higher due in part to export restrictions placed by the US Department of State.

Can someone explain how one country can cause another country's piss poor firearm prices?????

The Dove

 

[Nushif]

Can someone explain how one country can cause another country's piss poor firearm prices?????

The concept is called a "global economy" and has been around for quite some time. The term "And what does that have to do with the price of tea in China?" is at this point rather ironic.
Not to get too deeply into economics here, but a worldwide rise in the acceptance of private gun ownership would be a freakin' godsend for everyone who loves to shoot, and not only because they're once again allowed to.

 

[THe Dove]

Thanks Nushif. I just hope Canada's liquor laws don't dictate the cost of Jack Daniels in the United States!

The Dove

 

[azmjs]

Moral of the story is... you should have gotten a better AR

 

[thump_rrr]

Can someone explain how one country can cause another country's piss poor firearm prices?????

The Dove

Any firearm or firearm component manufactured in the United States requires an export permit from the US Department of State.

If a Canadian importer wants to import for example some Noveske AR-15's he must first send the money for the rifles to the manufacturer, apply for an export permit, pay the $250.00 and wait. If the permit is denied for whatever reason they're out their $250.00 plus the fee for restocking etc. It seems that the US Department of State will deny export for various reasons. If a component is currently being used by the US military chances are it will be denied.

I have heard that even components for M1A rifles are being denied export permits.

So by creating a shortage here in Canada people who do have certain rifles can ask pretty much what the market will bear.
Also there are very few gun shops here which sell restricted firearms (handgund and black rifles).

Noveske uppers here in Canada are going for around $1800.00 new in box second hand.

I have been wanting to purchase a Springfield Range Officer since they came out last fall.
There simply aren't any in Canada at any price.
It is nearly impossible to get any new Springfield 1911 in Canada.
For some reason you can find the odd TRP or Longslide but that's about it.
My friend paid $1600 for his Longslide around Christmas time.

On another note I just saw a Dan Wesson Valour Stainless at a local shop for $2075.
I know that the US List Price is $1594.
I also know that they go for around $1475 on Gunbroker.

That goes to show you that even if our money is at par we're still paying 25% more and also have to pay 15% tax on top of it.

 

[THe Dove]

Well thump, all I can say is we never gave up our gun rights, a lot of good people in America fought and died for those rights, and hopefully we never will lose or give them up. As for you, walk a mile in our shoes. God bless the USA!

The Dove

 

[thump_rrr]

Well thump, all I can say is we never gave up our gun rights, a lot of good people in America fought and died for those rights, and hopefully we never will lose or give them up. As for you, walk a mile in our shoes. God bless the USA!

The Dove

We never gave up our gun rights.
As a matter of fact it was never one of our rights to begin with.

The difference is that your right to bear arms is written in your constitution.
We don't have that written in our charter of rights and freedoms
I guess our forefathers messed up 140 years ago.

 

[mizzlep]

We never gave up our gun rights.
As a matter of fact it was never one of our rights to begin with.

The difference is that your right to bear arms is written in your constitution.
We don't have that written in our charter of rights and freedoms
I guess our forefathers messed up 140 years ago.

In the States, our rights come from God, not the Constitution. The Constitution is only supposed to protect our rights.

I don't know much about Canada, but I imagine our views of rights and where they come from are probably radically different.

 

[THe Dove]

The difference is that your right to bear arms is written in your constitution

Well amigo, I guess that's why they drew the north boundary of the USA and south boundary of Canada where they did and said "here" is the border.

Those lines were drawn way before you and I were a gleam in our fathers eye. But each generation must go forward and make the best and improve upon what cards we were dealt.

The Dove

 

[danprkr]

I forgot to ask him if quality was so important in every aspect of his life why was he driving a Honda instead of a Mercedes or whatever else.

Frequently Honda rates higher than Mercedes in quality.

 

[Sam1911]

Enough wandering.

Gun snobbery exists all over the place. Be happy in what you can afford to shoot, take all advice in stride and weigh it carefully against the balance of your experience and understanding, and don't let someone else's opinion bother you.