jonsidneyb
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Something that I have to say I am not very proud of considering most of my living relatives are full blooded Korean.
South Korean gun legislation?
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Well it depends on what you would call in common, Japan, S Korea, Singapore, Taiwan are countries i have visited, i beg to differ with your statement, e.g i have a loud voice when i first arrived in Seol & checked into my hotel the whole loby looked around when i gave my name, i scuttled off to my room thinking i must have an offensive name. After travelling around i noticed that no raised voices could be heard except mine & my travel buddies, on the metro no one spoke, they were all insulated in their own world, occasionally whispering to a companion. ( probably saying how loud these foreigners are ) The same could be said of Japan, at the airport they messed up my ( and other passengers flights ) guess who was arguing with the ticket clerk, the asian passengers accepted the delay, i & the other foreigners were moved to other flights.
There are many good points about S Korea, don't get me wrong i enjoyed my travels, but you cannot compare these societies with any western countries , the education system in Japan for example does not allow for any free thinking, again as i said before this is why so many asian people move to the English speaking nations.
jonsidneyb
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Japan does have a culture of group think for the most part. That I will agree. Japan and South Korea have huge historical mistrust of each other as well as Korea with China.
No, they are not western, nor are they homogeneous. They are as different from each other as the Germans, Scottish, French, and Italians are from each other but no they are not western.
One thing I find about many Koreans is quite a bit of racisim and not rah rah nationalism but anti-Japanese and Chinese thinking but my relatives there are curiously quite fond of Germans.
As to conformists. It might seem that way on the surface but Korea is famous for riots and civil unrest for a long time. the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, have had huge brutal riots about many things. Union Riots, Peace Riots that make no sence, Riots about legislation. I have to shake my head about it.
No, they are not western, nor are they homogeneous. They are as different from each other as the Germans, Scottish, French, and Italians are from each other but no they are not western.
One thing I find about many Koreans is quite a bit of racisim and not rah rah nationalism but anti-Japanese and Chinese thinking but my relatives there are curiously quite fond of Germans.
As to conformists. It might seem that way on the surface but Korea is famous for riots and civil unrest for a long time. the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, have had huge brutal riots about many things. Union Riots, Peace Riots that make no sence, Riots about legislation. I have to shake my head about it.
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S. Korea has strict gun laws, but I think that there are ranges where you can rent guns to shoot. You're just not allowed to keep guns at home. I haven't been there so all I can add to the gun law discussion is that most American gun owners would find the laws suffocating.
But as far as Koreans being a bunch of racist, xenophobic, conformist, pushy, rude, difficult, violent, etc.,you can get that impression easily if you look at the group. And yeah, Koreans can be like that. So can every other group of people.
On an individual basis Koreans are wonderful people, which is even more confusing: How is it that a Korean friend is the greatest human being in the world when his ethnic group seems composed of the worst people on Earth?
Add in the Korean Hitler ads for snack cakes and chewing gum or the Nazi theme-bars and you can get the wrong idea easily. And yes, they really did do those things.
I just say this: Eat your kimchi and shoot straight.
But as far as Koreans being a bunch of racist, xenophobic, conformist, pushy, rude, difficult, violent, etc.,you can get that impression easily if you look at the group. And yeah, Koreans can be like that. So can every other group of people.
On an individual basis Koreans are wonderful people, which is even more confusing: How is it that a Korean friend is the greatest human being in the world when his ethnic group seems composed of the worst people on Earth?
Add in the Korean Hitler ads for snack cakes and chewing gum or the Nazi theme-bars and you can get the wrong idea easily. And yes, they really did do those things.
I just say this: Eat your kimchi and shoot straight.
rkh
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I've never visited Korea, but.. in Japan where guns are banned and racial discrimination is legal and accepted, us gai jin have a hard time of it.
Even if there were no gun laws, I sure wouldn't want to live there. For anybody that got riled up about Don Imus' recent unfortunate remarks, I challenge him or her to spend a week in a Tokyo suburb--presuming he could find a place to stay, a bar that would serve him drinks, or a restaurant that would feed him.
In my experience asian culture is very rich, but not particularly accepting or welcoming of western people or ideas.
Even if there were no gun laws, I sure wouldn't want to live there. For anybody that got riled up about Don Imus' recent unfortunate remarks, I challenge him or her to spend a week in a Tokyo suburb--presuming he could find a place to stay, a bar that would serve him drinks, or a restaurant that would feed him.
In my experience asian culture is very rich, but not particularly accepting or welcoming of western people or ideas.
30 cal slob
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we need nail salon control. 
complete dry cleaner ban is not impossible.
kimchi should be regulated as a destructive device.
complete dry cleaner ban is not impossible.
kimchi should be regulated as a destructive device.
scurtis_34471
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I lived in Seoul Korea for two years (1996-1998). Civilian gun ownership is completely banned. The ban is so complete that even vast majority of criminal can't get guns. There is virtually zero gun crime and there is very little street crime other than pick-pockets. I could walk all over the city at any time of day and night with no fear of being attacked. You could literally put an unaccompanied child on the subway and send them across the city unaccompanied without worrying about it. People did it all the time. They knew that if the child had a problem, any adult would help and it was true. Crimes against children were unheard of. It happened one in the two years I lived there and it was a cause for national outrage and mourning.
The problem is that we are not comparing apples to apples. Koreans are, by culture, extremely conformist and law-abiding. Being different is not a virtue in Korea and the stigma attached to any kind of crime is extreme. Koreans are also like most other Asians in that they have a collectivist view of things. The entire society is responsible for the safety of its members, especially the very young and the very old. Its a completely different way of thinking and it generally works well for them. The key is that this thinking is part of their culture that has been ingrained in them for thousands of years. Most of them neither want nor understand liberty in the sense that many on this board describe it. The don't like the lack of security that comes with it.
The problem is that we are not comparing apples to apples. Koreans are, by culture, extremely conformist and law-abiding. Being different is not a virtue in Korea and the stigma attached to any kind of crime is extreme. Koreans are also like most other Asians in that they have a collectivist view of things. The entire society is responsible for the safety of its members, especially the very young and the very old. Its a completely different way of thinking and it generally works well for them. The key is that this thinking is part of their culture that has been ingrained in them for thousands of years. Most of them neither want nor understand liberty in the sense that many on this board describe it. The don't like the lack of security that comes with it.
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