Speer Gold Dot Personal Protection Ammo

[solvability]

I had a box of Federal 30-30 that cracked every neck when fired - I mailed them the box and some samples and they sent me a note and 3 boxes of their best grade ammo. They tend to make things right, but the 30-30 was not dangerous just disconcerting.

 

[Shawn Dodson]

The flat point bullet would be great if Winchester loaded it to full power.
But they don't.

It doesn't need to be loaded to a higher velocity than it is. Increased velocity is not going to increase wounding effect - it will simply increase penetration. The flat nose bullet in the Winchester load reliably penetrates more than 12" and crushes a permanent wound cavity the diameter of the flat nose.

 

[gamestalker]

AABEN, I did a penetration test using Gold Dot and XTP HP's using a 16" card board box lined with a trach bag, filled with water with tightly rolled denim stuffed into it. I tested 6 XTP's and 6 Gold Dots all 158 gr.. Every round fully expanded perfectly, and went completely through and stopped in the soft silt back stop. This is only 1 test of many over the years and the results were no different on earlier tests.

Yes, a FMJ will typically penetrate deeper, but it isn't going to expand and doesn't provide stopping power from hydrostatic shock created by HP's. HP's and LSWC are about 99% more effective for self defense than a FMJ.

 

[btg3]

^^^ What caliber was tested? Over the years what other calibersa and what other other data collected -- such as velocity and bullet weight?

FWIW...
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=625228

 

[SharpsDressedMan]

I bought some Remington .38 Super virgin, unfired cases several years back. I loaded Remington Goden Sabre bullets into them, left them on a shelf, and several months later, found that about 20% of them had cracked just sitting there. I feel it was the result of poor brass alloy, making them too brittle. The tension of the case mouth around the bullet was enough to crack them. That is what you have there, but from another maker. I contacted Remington, sent them back for examination (at my expense), and they refused to replace them in any way. I will never buy Remington brass again. I have loaded for over 40 years, and I did not contribute to the failure of those cartridges; there is nothing that I could have done to cause those cases to fail. Remington just did not want to get into an issue where they had to admit a failure and maybe recall thousands of cases or batches of bad brass.

 

[Batty67]

This ammunition in .30 carbine is the only ammunition my "picky" AO M1 carbine always likes and shoots very well. So I keep a magazine loaded with it for SD/HD, but obviously, too expensive to shoot paper.

 

[AABEN]

I have been loading for 30+ years and have some that are around 20 years old that was once shot brass in REM WIN FED in 38 357 and all is still good They are loaded to the MAX. The only cases that has split are some that has been reloaded 10+ times the brass is wore out. I some 38SP that has large primers.

 

[jwash3rd]

Speer has great customer service. When I had a problem with some of their 9mm GDHP, they had me send it back for testing and replaced it with more than enough extra thrown in to cover my shipping. If you do ship ammo back, make sure you take it to a UPS hub (not a storefront) and mark it ORM-D cartidges, small arms.