Speer Online Load Data (Pistol/Rifle) - Has Start Charges for Alliant Powders

[LiveLife]

These online Speer load data list start/max charges for various powders from different manufacturers:

Pistol Load Data - https://www.speer-ammo.com/reloading/handgun

Rifle Load Data - https://www.speer-ammo.com/reloading/rifle


While most pistol load data list thick plated TMJ and Gold Dot HP, there are lead load data like for 45ACP 230 gr Lead RN - https://www.speer-ammo.com/reloading/handgun - https://www.speer-ammo.com/download...un/45_caliber_451-454_dia/45_Auto_230_LRN.pdf

 

[LoonWulf]

That's cool! I didn't know Speer had that available.

 

[kcofohio]

bds, thanks for the links! I don't use enough Speer's to justify buying their manual. But when I do, this will come in handy.

 

[Toprudder]

Speer just started putting their data online recently (within the last year?).

I still like their printed manual. One thing I don't like about their online data is that they don't list the barrel length used for the velocity data.

 

[mcb]

That's another good source of online data. Thanks for the links. The more good online sources the better, I only wish it has pressure data with the velocity data.

I wish all the powder and bullet manufactures that published data would create online databases similar to Hodgdon's, that includes pressure. I can't remember the last time I looked at a printed document for load data. Everything I use comes from online sources and goes through Quickloads before my press. I use more Hodgdon/Winchester/IMR powders simple because of Hodgdon's database.

 

[Charlie98]

My first manual was a Speer, and I continue to use my newer one, I like how it's laid out. I like online data, but always compare it with printed sources.

I like Hodgdon's data format, hate Alliant's... looks like the Speer format is pretty decent. I like that they have some data for the newer powders.

Thanks, BDS!

 

[Toprudder]

My first manual was a Speer, and I continue to use my newer one, I like how it's laid out. I like online data, but always compare it with printed sources.

I like Hodgdon's data format, hate Alliant's... looks like the Speer format is pretty decent. I like that they have some data for the newer powders.

Thanks, BDS!

Funny that Alliant actually develops the data for Speer.

I have the printed Alliant data, but it does not include the barrel length. It is available online, however. Can be confusing when looking at the printed data, as they used either a 6" or 10" barrel for their 357mag data. It makes a difference!

 

[Charlie98]

Funny that Alliant actually develops the data for Speer.

I have the printed Alliant data, but it does not include the barrel length. It is available online, however. Can be confusing when looking at the printed data, as they used either a 6" or 10" barrel for their 357mag data. It makes a difference!

"That's probably why they have a lot of the new Alliant powder data in there, like BE-86.

Someone has separate rifle data for handgun rounds... I think it's the Hodgdon book. The loads aren't really that different, some are at max already, but the velocities are, and obviously the testing method.

I always get mad when they publish velocities based on a 10" test barrel (for handgun loads, obviously.)

 

[mcb]

"That's probably why they have a lot of the new Alliant powder data in there, like BE-86.

Someone has separate rifle data for handgun rounds... I think it's the Hodgdon book. The loads aren't really that different, some are at max already, but the velocities are, and obviously the testing method.

I always get mad when they publish velocities based on a 10" test barrel (for handgun loads, obviously.)

Yeah Hodgdon online database has entries for many common pistol caliber carbine cartridges in both the pistol and rifle sections. The loads are the same but the test barrels are different lengths. Although in most cases not all the loads in the pistol section are testing in the carbine length barrels.

 

[Toprudder]

Someone has separate rifle data for handgun rounds... I think it's the Hodgdon book. The loads aren't really that different, some are at max already, but the velocities are, and obviously the testing method.

I believe Hodgdon and Speer both have rifle data for a few handgun calibers (like 357mag). Speer even has a warning about using certain bullets in rifle length barrels due to the possibility of sticking a bullet.

 

[Rule3]

Funny that Alliant actually develops the data for Speer.

Why is that "funny" or odd? They are all one big happy family. Powder companies test their powders using "their" bullets if possible.
Hodgdon doesn't sell bullets so they use other brands.

I never cared much for Alliants Data on line compared to Hodgdons or Accurate Powders.

 

[vaalpens]

Thanks bds!

 

[Lee Q. Loader]

Thanks for the links! I always like to see new data sources. The first thing I looked for was to see if there was any 9mm Herco data...there wasn't
I did notice the 9mm 124 grain loads for BE-86. Some of us here have noted that Alliant's max charge of 5.9 grains seems pretty hot. The Speer lists it even hotter at 6.0 grains. That is with an OAL of 1.120. Wow! Use with caution!

 

[Toprudder]

Why is that "funny" or odd? They are all one big happy family. Powder companies test their powders using "their" bullets if possible.
Hodgdon doesn't sell bullets so they use other brands.

I never cared much for Alliants Data on line compared to Hodgdons or Accurate Powders.

Someone commented that they hated the Alliant data format, but like the Speer data. Data collected from the same source but formatted differently.

 

[Speedo66]

No .38-40 or .44-40.

 

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