Spiller & Burr Revolver

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Nice video. I have a Spiller $ Burr replica just like it, and it shoots very well, though as you say quite high. I really like mine.
 
Mine hits really high as well - not as bad as the pocket Remington but higher than any of the Colt clones.
 
Very nice!

I've always been interested in this pistol, but hesitant due to the brass frame. Is the 18 grn charge of 3F considered hot for this pistol? Would it last a long time using that charge, but of something like Swiss or Olde E instead?

18 grns of 3F obviously didn't fill the chamber as a wad was pushed well inside. I suppose this means the cylinder is a little bigger than a Colt Pocket model as I understand 20 grns about fills the chamber to the rim? The cylinder certainly looked smaller next to the Remington.

How does the grip size compare to the Remington?

Pietta's site states it weighs 1.1 kg vs 1.25 kg for a Remington '58, though their numbers cannot be very accurate as it says that for just about every model, .36/.44 cal and all the barrel lengths. It's obvious the Spiller & Burr is smaller than the Remington.

Watching the video it didn't seem there were cap jamming problems, although it did seem as though one spent cap was troublesome in some capacity.

Dixie Gun Works states the chambers are .367" in diameter. Is there enough meat between the chambers to ream it larger? And what is the bore size?

Is the frame proud around the loading window as the Pietta Remington is to where it would give some problems for loading conicals (and even balls to a degree)? It looks nice and open.
 
You can't load conicals because the bullet rammer is too long to accommodate them.

Pietta made Remington .44s and .36s are both made on the .44 frame, which lowers production costs, but is historically incorrect...and it makes the Remington Navis very heavy. The S&B is considerably lighter.The S&Bbarrel is listed at .372". Don't know why you would want to ream the chambers. It is extremely accurate as is.

Remington #10 caps were too big. I had to pinch them tight. I had trouble getting that spent cap off of the cone.

The grip is smaller than the Remington. I curl my little finger underneath it..

18 grains is a mild load. I don't know if the frame will tolerate more without stretching, but 18 grains is my usual load in brass framed guns, as opposed to 22 grains in steel frames.

Hope I got all your questions. I'm scrolling back and forth trying to read them all.
 
I've read many posts in which Pietta chambers were reamed to that of the bore and improved their accuracy. .367" sounds quite small.

I had Accurate Molds create me 2 bullets that are no longer than a ball with a wide FN. The same could be made for a .36 cal, and something I'd consider. I like the idea of a bullet/conical that sits properly each time without the hassle of attempting to center the sprue. And though it seems balls are accurate it just seems that it would have a slight wobble if the sprue wasn't centered.
 
Mike,

Where do you get all these cool guns?
You can't be buying them off the shelf because I can never find them forsale at all!
 
I run mine around 18gr, where it was most accurate. It definitely feels mild and in terms of the strength of the gun it does have the topstrap which can't hurt.

In terms of accuracy I've only shot it at 7 yards so far, because I've only shot it one day and that's where I always start and all the holes were touching. I'm not sure what level of accuracy you expect but I was happy.

I put aftermarket nipples on mine, as is my habit. It ran very well - no cap issues, the arbor or pin or whatever you call it in this design didn't gunk up in any meaningful way. It's a real delight to shoot.

I don't have them handy right now so hard to make a comparison but the frame's pretty beefy. I don't think the grip made an impression on me either way, which is probably good.
 
@Texas Moon - Dixie has them. Nobody else has had them in ages - I'm really glad Dixie started importing these for whatever reason.
 
That kind of accuracy is great!

I'm not a great shot by any means. I'm thrilled that my groups are under 4" offhand at 15 yds with whatever I put through my Ruger. I was hoping to be able to do that at 25 yds so I'd feel comfortable hunting with it, but it seems 15 yds is about all I can muster so far.
 
Yeah it maybe cold and snow on the ground but you have the range to yourself so there isnt auto fire in the background while your talking. Is this a different range then you normally go to? I notice buildings in the back and cars driving by?! :what:

The way the cylinder drops out reminds me of the Rogers and Spencer

It looks like a Remington from the forcing cone back, and a colt 51 from the forcing cone forward lol

Im not suprised it shoots high it has a colt front sight! lol

When i seen that little brass nub that was the first thing i thought, ill bet it shoots high.

Do they make this gun in a .44?
 
@rodwha Excellent question - I was using 777 that day so it may have been more like equivalent to 20 real BP and I was using .375 balls over wads. I don't usually see any accuracy difference between 777 and Goex but obviously sometimes it shifts the most accurate load around.

@BowerR64 - Yeah, it's a lot like a Rogers and Spencer in terms of the cylinder pin/loading lever assembly. The Spiller & Burr has a knob on one end instead of just screw heads so it's a little easier to operate and see what position it's in.

As I recall the internals looked like they'd pretty much ripped off Colt. It's really a hodgepodge.
 
I've been told that the loading lever linkage is rather weak and that loading conicals, were they to fit, would possibly put too much strain on the small screws.
 
re: conicals - I don't have a mold for .36 conicals yet but I usually load conicals in a press. With the easily removable cylinder it should be easy enough.
 
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