Bruddah_Al
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Didn't Paladin Press put out a reprint of an Army Special Forces manual on hip-shooting with various weapons?
Spray-firing from the hip - is it really that innacurate?
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BHPshooter
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in answer to the original post...
I've got a friend with a nice AK-47 (semi). He let me bump fire it a couple times, and yes, it is that inaccurate. I was lucky enough to hit the can once or twice in about 3- thirty round mags.
Just another one of those things that if people really thought about, they could figure out... but until then, they remain trusting sheep. If they only knew, maybe they'd realize that most of the stuff they are force-fed are lies, plain and simple.
Wes
I've got a friend with a nice AK-47 (semi). He let me bump fire it a couple times, and yes, it is that inaccurate. I was lucky enough to hit the can once or twice in about 3- thirty round mags.
Just another one of those things that if people really thought about, they could figure out... but until then, they remain trusting sheep. If they only knew, maybe they'd realize that most of the stuff they are force-fed are lies, plain and simple.
Wes
itgoesboom
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Tried it a couple times while bump firing my SKS jus to have fun. We had a box with 4 targets pinned on and out of ten shots, if I was bump firing I was able to hit maybe once or twice, three times at the most. If I was firing single shots, I could hit the box about 50% of the time, but not the individual targets.
The distance was about 20 yards.
I think I will stick to aimed fire, even out of an SKS its more accurate.
I.G.B.
The distance was about 20 yards.
I think I will stick to aimed fire, even out of an SKS its more accurate.
I.G.B.
Greybeard
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Hunting buddy is alive today due to Iraqi hip firing rifle during first gulf war. He got surprised by a teenager advancing and unloading an AK at him from 40 to 50 yards out. All that he had within reach was 9mm, which shot to slide lock before AK blaster ran out of ammo and went down about the same time. (He hates 9mm FMJ to this day.) He said while bullets were whizzing all around him, when he took inventory of the damages, only one round had nicked his collar. And then he sat down and cried.
nero45acp
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Ever since I saw the movie "Saving Private Ryan" I've wondered....... how accurately could an experienced soldier shoot a Thompson sub-machine gun?
larry_minn
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Ever since I saw the movie "Saving Private Ryan" I've wondered....... how accurately could an experienced soldier shoot a Thompson sub-machine gun?
While I will take a H&K MP-5 anyday over Thompson they can be shot. I have a target (first time with full auto Thompson) I did couple singles (all at 50' mind you) then doubles and finally @10 rd bursts. This was sighted of course. Anyway by rd 10 I was high on shoulder/or off target. The instructor thought I must have practice with full auto. (it was second full auto I had shot)
That said I keep going back to orig post. " AK-47 from the hip, on full-auto, at a van (side on), from about 20 yards away" A van is LARGE target and 60' is not far. FOr MN pistol permit class we had to do @ 21' with gun low (no sights allowed) and most had groups of @8" for 30rds with few flyers. I was shocked but realize we all shot first rd and ajusted from then then empty mag into center.
I have always said if POS is going to shoot at me from over 50' I want him to have full auto UZI rather then shotgun. I can hit him at 50' but if he has no training and misses me with first 3rds I should be fairly safe.
BTW the Thompson fired from a open bolt. I.E. you pull trigger and a (wild guess) 1lb steel bolt flys forward/strips/chambers rd and fires/ejects it. LONG lag time from trigger pull till rd leaves barrel. IMO really messes up aim. Some added danger (also IMO) if you have bad rds/other problems.
The MP-5 (SD please)
is another thing. Groups on target full auto. WOW cut the price @3 grand and I would try to buy a personal one.
While I will take a H&K MP-5 anyday over Thompson they can be shot. I have a target (first time with full auto Thompson) I did couple singles (all at 50' mind you) then doubles and finally @10 rd bursts. This was sighted of course. Anyway by rd 10 I was high on shoulder/or off target. The instructor thought I must have practice with full auto. (it was second full auto I had shot)
That said I keep going back to orig post. " AK-47 from the hip, on full-auto, at a van (side on), from about 20 yards away" A van is LARGE target and 60' is not far. FOr MN pistol permit class we had to do @ 21' with gun low (no sights allowed) and most had groups of @8" for 30rds with few flyers. I was shocked but realize we all shot first rd and ajusted from then then empty mag into center.
I have always said if POS is going to shoot at me from over 50' I want him to have full auto UZI rather then shotgun. I can hit him at 50' but if he has no training and misses me with first 3rds I should be fairly safe.
BTW the Thompson fired from a open bolt. I.E. you pull trigger and a (wild guess) 1lb steel bolt flys forward/strips/chambers rd and fires/ejects it. LONG lag time from trigger pull till rd leaves barrel. IMO really messes up aim. Some added danger (also IMO) if you have bad rds/other problems.
The MP-5 (SD please)
is another thing. Groups on target full auto. WOW cut the price @3 grand and I would try to buy a personal one. SnWnMe
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Obviously Clarkson does not have the mental maturity required to be a responsible gun owner. I handle guns and never get the feeling of power over anything nor do I find it unbelievably sexy. If anything, I feel that I should be resposible and diligent with my gunhandling. I guess it's the portrayal of guns as forbidden fruit that gives him this "feeling".
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