OK, I'm down to 2 guns now. The SA Custom Loaded A-1 Full size stainless OR The Kimber Stainless II. I really like the way both look and feel. Both are towards the lower end of their respective family. I have heard that Kimbers are great and that SA is a very good gun. I believe both will outshoot ME !! I am not looking for carry, just something to have a good time with, but reliability is very important and jamming and improper feeding would be a problem for me. I understand the following: Kimber takes a fair # of rounds to "break in" I understand they may be a bit sensitive for the first 500-1000 rounds. It comes with a 1 year warranty (not a huge issue) and the service rep that responded to my questions seemed a bit arrogant but was prompt in reply. I also understand they have some of the tightest tolerances of any production gun on the market. The SA is a bit "looser" (or so it seems) but again an accurate shooter and comes with a lifetime warranty. It also runs about $125 less than the Kimber and seems to have a fair number of features. I understand cleaning is critical on both to good operation (no brainer) and both are obviously good looking guns. Looking for some feedback at this point...........Thanks.