Springs Man Legally Carries Shotgun To Council Meetings

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Springs Man Legally Carries Shotgun To Council Meetings

POSTED: 6:14 a.m. MDT July 24, 2003

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. -- Reaction to a man's decision to carry a shotgun to City Hall to speak during council meetings has prompted a majority of council members to support a ban on openly carrying weapons in city buildings.

The council is expected to vote Aug. 12 for the ban, which would change a move the council made this spring to allow people with concealed weapons permits to carry firearms on public property. That change was required by a new state law easing the concealed-weapons permitting process.

Support for the ban comes in part from fears of people who have said they will avoid attending City Council meetings because a man with a grudge against the police department twice carried an unloaded shotgun into City Hall.

Don Ortega did not break any laws when he brought the shotgun to the building. He hasn't threatened anyone and did not hold the gun when he spoke to the council. But his actions have intimidated some staffers and city residents, council members said.

"I'm a firm believer in gun rights," said Councilman Scott Hente, a gun owner. "But having weapons in an open meeting is threatening."

Ortega, who frequently argues that police have harassed him, first brought his shotgun to the July 8 council meeting. He returned with the weapon on Tuesday, and council members received numerous complaints.

One woman told Councilman Jerry Heimlicher that her child's teacher said she won't bring her class to council meetings for field trips as long as guns are allowed to be carried openly, he said.

The majority of council members say they do not want to ban concealed weapons. But after a closed session late Tuesday, most said they were behind a ban on openly carrying guns in city buildings

"If our goal is to get more people involved and be more excited about being involved in our government, we need them to feel safe," Councilwoman Margaret Radford said.

Opposing the change is Randy Purvis, who said he has seen only one gun carried openly in City Hall, and said the novelty of Ortega's actions will wear off.

"I think the inconvenience of carrying a weapon around is going to prove enough of a deterrent," he said.

Pikes Peak Firearms Coalition president Bernie Herpin said his group plans to talk to council members about what he called an "irrational fear."

But Wednesday's shooting in New York, where a City Council member was shot to death during a meeting, could strengthen backing for the ban.

"It's a disaster waiting to happen," Vice Mayor Richard Skorman said.



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LOL
 
Armed citizens in a public building? :uhoh: Oh, thats right, I guess you have to be a council member like Davis in order to be trusted and get by security with a couple of guns in order to feel safe. :barf:
 
"I'm a firm believer in gun rights," said Councilman Scott Hente, a gun owner. "But having weapons in an open meeting is threatening."

He's actually a firm believer in some Second Amendment civil rights for some people some of the time in some locations under some circumstances—or at least, a fairly firm believer.
 
"...we need them to feel safe," Councilwoman Margaret Radford said"

So, hold the meeting in a heavily secured room with the local SWAT standing around the perimeter, with guns leveled at anyone with the temerity to speak.
OR
Get more people to open carry.
 
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The majority of council members say they do not want to ban concealed weapons. But after a closed session late Tuesday, most said they were behind a ban on openly carrying guns in city buildings

They don't mind "Negroes", either...as long as they only use the back door. :rolleyes:
 
Yeah, things work out so much better in places like NYC where normal people are not allowed to carry guns into city hall, places where criminals roam free and citizens tremble at the thought of legal consequences of using a firearm to defend themselves.

That dumb teacher mentioned ought to be fired for failing to educate her students because of some irrational fear of an unloaded shotgun.
 
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