Squib Rant

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Squibs happen. I'd bet of members here 75% would lie about a squib or not report the issue because it's the most embarrassing thing that can happen in loading ammo.
I've had one in 15 years that stuck in a revolver barrel. I have no clue how it happened. It was in my first year loading ammo besides shot shells, single stage press, one at a time operation.
I went through a stage where I was a bit of a range Rat. I've seen some piss poor reloads, some of them really stupid stuff. people mess up, but the good thing is the margin of error is huge, a lot more than most would have you believe. I've been shocked lots of times what didn't get someone hurt or blow a gun up atleast.
i saw some kids having trouble with some shotshells one day, lots of smoke out the barrel. I cut a shell open to find some odd looking stick powder. Kids had went to the store and bough random powder and went to town on dads press. Lucky they grabbed the rifle powder and not some super fast burning stuff.
I helped a guy beat his bolt open one day on a 243. It was obvious over pressure. A friend had loaded him some bullets. The recepie was in the box. Looked up the info in the current hornady book (hornady bullet) it was 5 grains over Max. We pulled the bullets at my place and found not only were they overcharged. But the powder was contaminated (10% ish) with some sort of ball powder mixed in with h4895.
Then there was the 243 bullets a man had with .224 slugs in them. He was super proud of them and had paid a guy he knew to load them custom for him. The bullets were loose in the brass. You could slip them up and down. A radical roll crimp was holding them in the canalure. The dude didn't believe me and shot 5 of them before conceding there was an issue. He kept saying that his buddy was a real good loader and they were supposed to be loose like that.

I used to get mad at ranges and stuff that don't allow reloads. But I see why now. If you can tell they are reloads by looking they probably don't need shot around other folks!
 
WVRJ wrote:
I learned the basics from a very patient uncle who took the time to get me started in metallic cartridge loading,and some of the tricks he taught me about loading reliable ammunition have stuck with me through the almost 40 years I have been loading.

You were fortunate.

I got into reloading "under the radar" by getting set up in my grandmother's garage, so everything I know was learned from the Speer manual and refined by myself and a friend who was also a teenager. After nearly two years, when I was finally able to "come out of the garage", my father started using his PhD to do process analysis on what I was doing and helped me improve and keep better records.
 
Sam T1 wrote:
...Looked up the info in the current hornady book (hornady bullet) it was 5 grains over Max.

So, what's your problem with that?

After all, "everyone" "knows" the powder companies and bullet makers deliberately water down their loads by at least 10% due to liability concerns and all guns are proof tested at 130% of their operating load, so that's at least a 40% tolerance right there. Right? o_O

But the powder was contaminated (10% ish) with some sort of ball powder mixed in with h4895.

That was "seasoning" that was supposed to help the primer ignite the "slow burning" H4895. :neener:

He kept saying that his buddy was a real good loader and they were supposed to be loose like that.

:rofl:

Okay, I got nothing to say here except amazement at trying to puzzle out which one was the bigger nut and which one was the bigger con man.
 
wrench459 wrote:
Does this mean my day's are numbered?

Hopefully not because that would put me on the reaper's list right there with you.

I think what it means is some combination of 1) you have been doing things conscientiously and consistently for years, 2) you have been lucky, and/or 3) your guardian angel has put in some serious overtime :)
 
Knock on wood - I've haven't yet had a squib. In "reloading years" I'm very young - 3 or so. There are still a lot of opportunities for me to make a mistake.

It seems to me a big portion of finding mistakes is attributed to the attitude about whether you think you'll ever make a mistake. To me one of the danger signs is when someone essentially says "My process is so thorough there is no way I can make a mistake." On another forum I frequent a poster would very frequently convey this attitude.

At one time I was a shooting sports merit badge instructor for the Boy Scouts. The instructor who trained us said "A safety is a mechanical device that can eventually fail." - meaning don't put your trust in something that can break/fail.

I'm quite fascinated about this balance between making sure one follows documentation and verifying info, but yet not turning off the brain. One day I went into a manual to verify a 9mm load I was about to make. The numbers just didn't seem right. I had the right bullet. I had the right powder. Why did the numbers seem off? Then I noticed I was in the 9mm LARGO chapter, not the 9mm LUGER chapter. o_O
 
Funny how language changes. When I was a kid, squibs were low powered loads for indoor or garden varmint popping. Lyman even named a few bullets "squib" in the first cast bullet manual. Guess I'm showing my age here.
 
Funny how language changes. When I was a kid, squibs were low powered loads for indoor or garden varmint popping. Lyman even named a few bullets "squib" in the first cast bullet manual. Guess I'm showing my age here.
lol I've heard guys call the wax loads for practicing quick draw squibs. I guess that's where it came from. They put a primer in the case and then stick it in wax that's 1/2" thick. It's amazing how much power the primer has.
 
Funny how language changes. When I was a kid, squibs were low powered loads for indoor or garden varmint popping. Lyman even named a few bullets "squib" in the first cast bullet manual. Guess I'm showing my age here.

Me, too.
I refer to "stuck bullets" and leave "squib" where we found it, even though nobody uses it that way any more.
There are several such transmogrified terms, but none seem to matter on the Internet. Unless you mention a "clip."
 
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