troy fairweather
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Did you try to fire them a 2nd time.
Looks like bad primers, not firing in a different gun confirms its primers.
fireforming with factory ammo.Did the misfire issue occur during fire forming 06 rounds into 06AI?
correct, you could see where the edge of the chamber hit the shoulder/neck of the case.The neck on his chamber should be about 4 thousands short for a crush fit. So the case can't jump forward. Looks like bad primers, not firing in a different gun confirms its primers.
agreed, unfortunately we didn't have my old 06 out the first couple times.Ain’t the scientific method grand?
here's a question, could a poor strike have damaged the primer to the point it wouldn't fire when hit with a good strike in another gun?
fireforming with factory ammo.
The Ackley camber throat will hold the case headspace does not matter to much. The trim length being to short could cause problems, or if the barrel was not chambered properly.Just enough slop between the factory ammo and the ackley chamber to push the cartridge forward when the pin hits the primer. That’s my theory
When fire forming my 6BR to BRA I had to jam the bullets into the lands to keep this from happening
Just enough slop between the factory ammo and the ackley chamber to push the cartridge forward when the pin hits the primer. That’s my theory
messing up the chamber was my initial assumption, especially after that first box of Winchesters. Gauges checked out, and the reprimed/loaded brass fired.The Ackley camber throat will hold the case headspace does not matter to much. The trim length being to short could cause problems, or if the barrel was not chambered properly.
Thats pretty much where my thoughts lay, but it seemed nearly as odd that Id manage to buy two different brands of rounds with bad primers. Unless something in shipping happened to effect them.I’m sure there is a theoretical failure mode which the first pin strike could create, but it would be ridiculously rare. I would place my bets such you’d have two bad rifles before such a primer manipulation would occur. For example, the first rifle having a light pin strike but a fat pin, and the second rifle having a moderate/normal power spring but a short pin protrusion. A light but deep strike followed by a “hard but small and shallow strike.” Exceptionally low likelihood in either case - simplest answer when two guns go “click” is bad primer. When we hear hoof beats in the States, most often it’s horses, not zebras.
looked the same as the fresh one.The anvil should be flush after its seated. Did you check the paper in the cup.
Ive got a batch of new brass and bullets coming in. Usually id have done my own loads for fireforming, but when I sold my b14 to my buddy, i gave him all the 06 brass i had at the time.I bet your chamber is fine.
If you were fire forming hand loads you’d have more control over the process. Off the shelf ammo, you get what you get, generally on the smaller size to accommodate every chamber on the planet.
Ive burned up all the loaded ammo Ive got. I forget what the difference in water capacity was, but ill go grab my paper work on it in a bit. It wasnt a huge gain, but i can comfortably fit something like 65gr of rl-25 into the case with the drop tube i made, so it maybe enough to go to one step slower a powder. If not 62+ rl-23 here i come.How many rounds of the ammo do you have left. Did you see what the gain in volume was ackleying it, can't remember if you did or not.
The info i scribbled down was for mixed cases, and all in the AI form.Did you see what the gain in volume was ackleying it, can't remember if you did or not.