Stealing Gas.

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Speaking of locking things up...

I just got a new 5Kw generator for blackouts this hurricane season. The first thing I did was get a goodly amount of stout chain and a Sargent & Greenleaf GSA armored padlock.

Generators tend to grow legs and feet when they're running during blackouts. A friend of mine had his running outside the back porch, and woke up to find a lawnmower idling in place where his generator had been sitting. :eek:
 
I remember hearing something about being able drop a match on a full 50 gal drum of gas, and have nothing happen - as there isn't enough fumes or at least fume to air ratio.

On a cold day you can do that. It's really wierd, throwing matches into a small bucket of gasoline and watching them go out. You also can't siphon newer cars, believe be I tried years ago when I was poorer than I am now.
 
A friend of mine had his running outside the back porch, and woke up to find a lawnmower idling in place where his generator had been sitting.

While your friend's loss is nothing to laugh at, the idea of waking up to an idling lawnmower instead of a generator is kind of funny. It also demonstrates some thinking on thief's part as well.

Chris
 
Not that I've ever done this , but.......

It was kind of an old joke in my neighborhood that some practical joker was sooner or later going to put a locking gas cap on your car. The major drawback to this was that you could not see the look on the car owner's face when they discovered it at the pump.
 
Locking caps also deter sugar from entering your tank so easily.

When I was younger, my friends and I would light a coffee can of unleaded gas to use as a handwarmer to lengthen our outdoor basketball season. It worked great for about 30 min if I remember correctly. You also get a beautiful "lake of fire" if the basketball knocks the can over. :what: Something about greater surface area LOL.

My own pyro invention was to lay an aerosol can on its side, pour gas over it, light it, and while it's burning shoot a hole in the side of the can with a BB. Makes a nice ball of flame for a few seconds. Sorry enviromentalists, we were young and ignorant. :rolleyes:

disclaimer: please do not attempt these stunts.
 
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Locking caps also deter sugar from entering your tank so easily.
A guy actually tested this on swedish tv...the car ran just fine, despite the sugar added to the gasoline. OTOH, it was an older car (Volvo Amazon maybe), and I would assume that older cars aren't as sensitive as newer ones.
 
Anyone want to guess how long before a gas thief is killed by an irate owner? I can't work up much sympathy for them but the anti's will be sure to use it for political milage.
 
I heard (probably urban legend) where a car owner walked up on on someone trying to get the syphon started, stuck a gun to his head, & told him that when the gas got up the tube that he better start swallowing :eek: .

I don't know if I would shoot someone for stealing gas (in my present circumstances, NOLA is a different matter) but burning their throat/stomach might be a good incentive for them to rethink their carreer path :scrutiny: :D .
 
What about the treaspasser with a can of gas being mistaken for an arsonist preparing to torch my house!
It is not the ammount of force used but the justification of the use!
I think arson is still considered, in most states-DEADLY!
Gary
 
HAH! I have allready caught my doper neighbor in my gas tank! I smacked him in the back O' the head with my SP101 and the local fuzz hauled him off. Court is in two weeks, and this loser cant even throw 2k bail. LOL
 
Hey guys/gals try putting a hose down your gas tank first one suitable for gas NOT YOUR GARDEN HOSE! the smaller the better about 3/8"-1/2" will do. You can get a 12" piece at the local auto parts store for less than .50c per foot. Most cars/trucks now have anti siphon tanks thus not needing a locking gas cap.
 
Never tried it. But, my understanding about the sugar is that it will run fine, until you shut it off. Then it crystalizes in the engine. Effectively gluing everything in place. :eek:
 
When the Portland Trailblazers, basketball, were in the championships back in, I think it was '79, a friend of mine who lives in a semi remote area came out one morning and found an envelope on the windshield of his car that said, "I am really sorry but I stole some of your gas last night. I was driving my wife to the hospital, she was in labor, and ran out of gas down the road. I didn't want to wake you so I stole a couple of gallons of gas, I am sorry. I hope I can make it up to you by giving you these two tickets to the Blazer game tonight. They are pretty good seats and we won't be able to use them. Enjoy the game."

Well my friend was pleased as all get out, you couldn't buy tickets, all the games were sold out. He and his wife made a night of it, they went into town and had a nice dinner, then they went to the game and had a great time.

When they got home they discovered that someone had backed a moving van up to their house and stolen everything they owned.

When the police talked to the one neighbor that had driven by and seen the moving truck and crew hard at work, the neighbors were mad at my friend because he hadn't told them they were going to move. Never got any of his stuff back, art, jewelry, guns, furniture, clothes, nothing.

That whole thing was obviously a set-up.
 
We purchased a new '04 boat in late '03. When the Hurricanes hit last Sept. the boat was filled with 60 gal of gas, I went to siphin some out and found out I was not able to do it cause it had a screen or something about 3 ft down the tank. :eek: had to take the fuel hose off the engine to get the gas.
 
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I've heard this before, but don't understand how it works.

From what I understand, there is a screen in the line that goes to the tank, so a hose can't be shoved into the tank.

Older cars - 1980 and up, had springs inserted in the neck. If somebody sent a hose down the neck, the spring would prevent it from reaching the fuel in the tank. I suppose a hose really small in diameter could get through, but it would seriously slow the siphoning process.
 
Fella's;

Being a locksmith as I am - - - - . Let's see, where to start? OK, if you want a locking gas cap, my suggestion is to get a Rescue Cap. It's a 3-digit combo locker that will also store a set of car keys & a house key. Set the combo to something that you are highly unlikely to forget, like the first 3 of your phone or SSN numbers. Downside is, they don't work for cars that have an inside the vehicle gas flap release. And no, they aren't absolutely secure. But, you don't have to worry about losing the key to it, the car, or the house, either.

As an earlier poster mentioned, if they have enough time & can bring enough force. He's correct. However, for practical purposes, I also sell safes, true safes. And I can make 'em have to take a whole lot of time & apply really large amounts of force. Things the average or even not-so-average thief isn't prepared to do.

Can't find a Rescue cap?, PM me.

900F
 
Saturday my flying buddy and I flew out for breakfast in my aeroplane, a big Cessna 150. Because the field I fly out of has a fuel problem due to software, don't ask, we flew to another field to get gas. We pulled up next to a very nice looking Cessna 182, Skylane. As we are waiting to pay for our gas the Skylane pilot came into the FBO office and we got to talking. The Skylane is brand new and we are talking $300,000 or so. It seem as if he came in the night before and observed the line personell refuel the plane. You guessed it, 50 gallons of fuel had been taken out of the plane overnight. You do the math: $3.75 per gallon for 50 gallons. The gas theves are hitting everything that uses petro. BTW, that Skylane will hold about 80 gallons of gas.
 
True...Re: the myth and gas blowing up

I saw a video made by some retired police officer. He dealt with these myths...even the .50 BMG did not make the gas tank "explode" like Hollywood. Neither did it do so, empty, nor full, nor even with tracers, nor incendiaries. It was a cool video.
 
btw, if the s ever htf and you NEED to siphon, here's a trick i learned from an nco in the motor pool:
use two hoses and a rag, one hose doesn't need to be very long. you insert the long one down to the bottom of the tank and the short one just inside the opening, stuff the rag (the dirtier, greasier, wetter, the better) around the two tubes and blow into the short tube. this will force fuel into the longer hose and when the levels equalize it will siphon like normal if you pull the rag away. zero risk of gas in the mouth. :cool:
 
For many years I kept a full five gallons of extra gas in my truck without any problem. I fear those days are gone forever.

When the police talked to the one neighbor that had driven by and seen the moving truck and crew hard at work, the neighbors were mad at my friend because he hadn't told them they were going to move. Never got any of his stuff back, art, jewelry, guns, furniture, clothes, nothing.

If those were tickets for the 1976/77 playoffs against the 76ers, I would have called it an even trade.
 
Where I'm from they call this an Oklahoma credit card
 

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