Steyr M9 or CZ 100?

[Todd]

I am looking for a polymer 9mm pistol under $400. These 2 look to be pretty good guns. I know that some of the service on the M9 is lacking right now but could improve. Which one is better? What are some other choices?

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks and have a Great day.

 

[George Hill]

Steyr.

 

[SouthpawShootr]

I have both. Definitely Steyr. The trigger takes alot of getting used to on the CZ100. You can soften it up but it either take some degree of end-user modification or alot of shooting. Either way, there is simply no way to get it to equal the Steyr (very similar to the Glock trigger).

 

[tbeb]

Look at the Ruger P95. Mine has never malfunctioned with FMJ or JHP. I see them on internet auctions with a blue slide, new for $299. That tells me you should be able to buy one at a gun shop for about $350.

 

[SouthpawShootr]

A P95 would be a good choice. About the only complaint I've heard is that it is a bit big. The ones I've handled have all impressed me as good quality guns. Standard cap mags are readily available as the gun used P89 series mags (even factory mags can still be had for good prices).

 

[mephisto]

Steyr. Great gun. I like the ruger p-89 also. There are alot of great guns under 350 if you do a little looking. I bought my m-9 at a gun show for 325. I found 2 mags on ebay for 30 bonez. The funny thing about a gun show is that someone might have the same gun for 450 (as was the case for me). Just look around.

Mephisto

 

[arinvolvo]

Mephisto...I have noticed that too...one booth has a steyr for normal decent price 350 or so...and another guy is selling the same thing for 450-500....

More power to them if they can get some yutz to pay that...but I still think it is wrong.

oh ya, anyway, the Steyr M9 is the freaking bomb...I love mine to death...Has the lightest recoil of any 9mm I have fired...Same for the same model in 40 caliber...the 40 recoils like a 9....the 9 recoils like a pellet gun...makes for crazy accurate shooting.

 

[Flashpoint]

I posted a thread not to long ago asking about the CZ 100. I basicly found out that it is a good gun with a bad trigger, that with some work could turn into a decent trigger. Nothing I read made me want to trade in my Steyr.

 

[caz223]

I like CZs, but wouldn't recommend the CZ100 over the Steyr.

 

[CZF]

I agree 100% about the horrendous trigger!

However, i do feel that if we would ever be so fortunate to see the importation of another CZ model by CZ-USA, the gun would
out-Glock the mighty Glock on several accounts.

1. PRICE $$

The Selective Action CZ-110 would sell for around $299 Dealer.
No Glock, new or even used (that i know of) sells for near that low of a price tag. New shooters(not sure of guns, and not
wanting to spend much money on a new hobby) or those on a budget would be better served with the economical, but still great quality CZ

ERGONOMICS.

The CZ-100/CZ-110 points much better and faster than the
Glock. This is in my opinion and of many a Glock owner who owns
or has handled/shot a CZ 100 series gun.

RELIABILITY. The CZ-100/110 are equally reliable or more so
than the Glock 19. Citing the Phase 3 malfunctions as exp.
by the NYPD and other agencies/gunowners. The 100 series
will chew up any 9mm fodder you can stuff into it. The guns
tend to be trouble-free and not subject to recalls or 'upgrades'
as some Glocks. As i was long impressed with the reliability
with my Glock 17 and 26. I am equally impressed with the
100. While the Glock sees police servcie. The CZ-100 is a
Czech national police pistol, as is the PCR/P-01, and CZ99.

With a world-wide reputation for Reliability as Job One. The
polymer offering lives up to the CZUB trademark.

Hi-CAPS. The plentiful 15-shot CZ75B magazines work splendid
in the 100 series. They cost WAY less than a genuine Glock 9mm
Hi-cap!

SIGHTS. Steel Adjustables on most 100/110s, not fixed plastic sights.The Glock having and edge on after-market sights.

ACCURACY. Some guys are quick to point out just how darned
accurate the CZ-100 is. Well, the CZ-110 is even more of a
tack-driver..due to the improved trigger control. Those owners
in South Africa and the Philipinnes just rave about the 110!
They find them to be far more accurate than any Glock 17/19s.


PENDING MARKET.

While most shooters know about or own Glocks.
I do think that the CZ-110 will turn some heads. Those guys
and gals who have long admired/lusted for a polymer CZ with
a decent trigger, but passed on the 100's DAO and LOUSY
reputation on the internet and among shooters who decry
the horrid trigger pull.

The CZ-100 was designed as a POLICE issue gun. With the
goal of producing a fail-safe type service pistol..one that takes
a deliberate act to discharge the pistols.They took the DAO concept a bit to far, and the resulting trigger pull is what
keeps the 100 from be readily accepted.

A CZ-110 is what others around the world enjoy shooting,
and many a CZF member and others pine for the model to reach our shores. Light, Compact, Rugged and Trustworthy. The CZ-110 has a great future among American shooters, again, should it ever be imported.

More info on the 110 and other fine CZ Firearms.

http://www.czub.cz

 

[js2013]

I'm in the same boat, Steyr, CZ100, or Glock 19. Concerned about the safety of the Steyr, CZ100 trigger pull is to long, don't like the grip on the Glock 19, but the CZ110 would be perfect. I hear the DA trigger is much better and shorter than the CZ100. I emailed CZ and asked them when the CZ110 would be available in the USA. Their response was that they didn't know "when or if" the 110 would be offered in the US. I've also read on the CZ board that CZ didn't think there was a market for the CZ110 in the US. Unbelievable! At around $350 for a CZ110 they'd make a fortune.

 

[Handy]

Would you rather be drowned, or burned at the stake?



I guess I wouldn't really choose either. There's alot of fish in the sea.

 

[CZF]

I now have some mini-catalogs (brochures) from S.Africa.
These are CZUB models and show both the CZ-100 and the
CZ-110. There IS a market for the CZ-100 in the states, as
people buy them each day. Gunbroker is quite busy with
CZ-100 auctions, actually more than one would think. The
interest in the 'Glock Like' 100 increase during the summer
months..with people looking for smaller, lighter pistols to
carry, but still want the power of the 9mm or .40, and do
bypass the outstanding CZ83 only for the power factor.
The (once imported) CZ83 in 9mm MAKAROV option is now
gone.

With a Retail price as low as a reported $200 (US) in
S. Africa. The Cz100 gets a lot of attention there, ditto
for the CZ-110 once people realize the difference in the
models. There is only one source for CZs in RSA..that
being a sole importer< but most every gunshop carries
the well known "Cee-Zeds"

The fact that CZUB thinks there is no market for the 110
stateside doesn't mean much to me. CZ-USA has to make
the decision to import it..should it meet BATF Approval..
which i see no great reason why it would not. The Glock
and even Walther P99, not to mention.. the new H&K P2000
operate in a like manner.

I would also like to see them import the CZ83 .22 conversion kit.

Time will tell.

 

[George Hill]

CZF - that is a great dissertation of the merits of the CZ-100 over the Glock... but I think the original question was regarding the Steyr.
The Steyr has ergonomics to rival the CZ-100 or most autos for that matter. They are very nice. They have excellent triggers as well. They are the better choice between these two.

 

[Walt Sherrill]

I'm a big fan of CZs -- have several -- but not the CZ-100...

While the trigger is a big turnoff, members on the CZForum have found a number of simple mods that make the crappy trigger pretty good. (Given that, I may still get one, one of these days.)

That said, I think I still prefer the Steyr... but with a cavaet.

Isn't the Steyr line being dropped by the importer? What happens if you need parts or want warranty support?

If that's not an issue, its a no-brainer.

 

[Flashpoint]

Steyr was dropped by GSI and then picked back up by a Co. called Zanders. Supposedly if you by a Styer through Davidson's and CDNN then they have the new impoter mark on them. I bought mine back in Feb. and it has the GSI mark. If I'm missing something or mistaken, please someone chime in.