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Stoopid Gun Store!

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by TrafficMan, Oct 17, 2005.

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  1. TrafficMan

    TrafficMan Member

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    so i put a rifle on lay away this weekend (pre64 Model 94 Winchester 30-30) and put $125.00 down on the rifle...

    check the bank account tonite and they charged the full ammount ($495.00) plus my down payment ($125.00)

    it rattled me to say the least, considering i have car payment and insurance checks out there that won't clear...called the bank tonite and the guy said i should be good to go, he's gonna call the shop tommorow and get things squared away...anyways, bank says the checks will clear regardless considering i am disputing the charge...

    frustrating to say the least!
     
  2. Lupinus

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    Ah gotta love screw up's like this. Many a check I've bounced from stupid crap a company is charging me for they wont supposed to charge.
     
  3. Turtle Club

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    Use this to your advantage. Go back to the merchant. Be very policte, then once they replace the incorrect amount in to your account. Kindly as that once your layaway is paid off that for the trouble you would like 200 rounds of top shelf ammo FREE. If not threaten to take business elswhere.
     
  4. Moparmike

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    Turtle Club, where do you live? I deal with the best gunstore within 20 miles and they would laugh at you if you said that. Oh, they dont do haggling, really. I have never encountered a store that did...
     
  5. patrol120

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    There must be some crappy gunshops around. Theres not a store or dealer within 50 miles that waont haggle, and throw in free stuff. If the store did that, they owe you a discount, at least. Of course, my dealer does free transfers for me. He says that if he cant beat the price, he owes me the transfer.

    Iv only had to use him once for a transfer, by the way.
     
  6. mr.trooper

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    where the heck do you go to buy guns?!?!?

    I wouldnt go to a store that wouldn't haggle. iv alwase been able to haggle um' down at least $100. THe more guns i buy from them, the less they charge me. I got my last purchase, a NIB Ruger M77 MKII, for about 5% over dealer price :cool:

    Haggl'n is where its at!
     
  7. Lupinus

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    Haggling is good.

    I can see first or maybe second purchese.

    But if you go there a lot they should be willing to haggle a bit. And most definatly be willing to give you a discount or some freebies if they make a big screw up like this.

    And that's ANY buisness IMO. If they won't make it right I take my buisness elsewhere.
     
  8. TrapdoorBilly

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    Not knowing how much you paid for the gun I can not dispute your statement, but think about this. Just how long do you think this guy will be able stay in business if he continues this practice?
     
  9. oct_97

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    I once had a prospective customer tell me he did not allow dealers to make a profit from him, he was invited to immediately vacate the building.
     
  10. Onmilo

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    Never use a debit card, end of frustrations,,,,
     
  11. larry starling

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    I don't have a problem with a store making a profit. Thats what there in buisness to do. But I do have issues when a store marks somthing up higher than MSRP. There is one store I go to in Charlotte and said store has a Blue Colt Goldcup. Price is $1399.00 thats almost 100 bucks more than MSRP.....***????:eek:
     
  12. ScottsGT

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    Being the business minded person I am, I realize that a store HAS to make money to stay alive. Friday I went into my local store to buy a used Colt.GCNM. Price was marked at a really good price for a slightly used top of the line Colt. I did ask if the price could be dropped, but didn't push the issue, just gave him my deposit.
    The way I see it, if they were'nt there, the original owner would not have traded in, they would not of had it for sale, and I would have never seen the gun to buy it. BTW, he even told me they are making 15% on the sale.
     
  13. middy

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    If it was a debit card and it was a pending transaction, then it may not have been intended to post until the transaction was complete.

    A lot of debit card users read their pending transactions as gospel and then raise hell with the bank and vendor over nothing. e.g.; A lot of banks will automatically add a 20% tip on pending transactions with restaurants. The true amount will come through when it posts.
     
  14. Scoupe

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    Years ago I managed high end bicycle shops. We (the shop personel) would have a private a chuckle whenever a customer would use the "I'm a good customer, I deserve a discount" line.

    Our response: A good customer pays the fair markup so I can stay in business.

    IMO, all the shop owes you is the refund on the extra billing and an apology. If there were charges accrued from bounced checks, they owe you that too.
     
  15. Moonclip

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    It's the age old dilemma, they can charge what they want and you can choose where you want to do business. That pretty much sums it up. You no like,you no buy! That being said though, I do not haggle too much except at maybe a pawnshop or private sale as I want my local delaers to stay in busiess, at least some of them!

    However in this case, I'd say the dealer could throw in something tangible besides an apology for all the trouble he caused the customer.

    My dad once got 5 boxes of Speer Lawman 45acp ball for a major screwup in the firearms paperwork that required him to make an extra trip to the store and a waste of like one hour of his time. Store had originally offered like 3-5 boxes of 9x19 but he asked for and got the better ammo.

    I once got a $15 dollar gift certificate from Big 5 for a pretty good screwup and employee attitude and I once got a $10 one because like a year later in an ATF audit they found I did not sign my 4473 and they had to have me go back to do so.
     
  16. Lupinus

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    I don't think anyone think's a buisness should give you a product at a signifigint discount for no reason. You are there to make money, most people understand this. A very expensive item for a good customer, I think you could haggle a bit. Do you have to? No.

    But a big screw up? Then yes after that I as a customer feel that I should be getting a little something. Esspecialy if I am a regular customer and spend quite a bit there. If I go to a resturant and everythign they send out is screwed up, I expect some money off the bill. If I buy a new car and it has one problem after another, I expect it to be fixed or replaced and some money taken off what I owe depending on the level of aggravation. If a compnay double charges me, I expect the extra back plus a little bonus. It show's that they are sorry and willing to make it up in order make things right and keep your buisness. Do I expect it free? No. Do I expect it even half off or at his cost? No. But I do expect a little something off or extra something thrown in for the price. If all your willing to do is give me back what you screwed up, depending on just how bad a screw up, I might be inclined to find someplace else to take my buisness. Agian, I don't expect it for next to nothing but I do expect something in return.

    At the very least in this case they should throw in a few box's of ammo.
     
  17. TrafficMan

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    Everything has been squared away. Did I get anything extra? No. Did I get an apology? Yes. That's fine by me.

    I really didn't expect anything "extra" anyways...and at no time during any of this process did I raise hell or act like an azzhole.

    I called the store this morning, explained the situation and that the bank would be calling to straighten things out and boom...everything is fine and the money is back in my account. All Good.....
     
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    Good Deal Things happen at least you were calm about it
     
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    Which is only about 7% off a normal decent price. Place I deal with sells Ruger M77 MkII either wood/blue or allweather in standard calibers for $459.

    Most shops mark up 8-15% on new guns. Local dealer only made about $90 on my AR-10A2C. Accessories and used is where they make money.
     
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    Then again there are banks that will take the pending amount (even if WAY overestimated) as gospel according to what is available & hit you with overdraft fees even if in the end you wouldn't have been with what came through on the actual charges.

    (yes I have had a couple of fights over that & switched banks once)
     
  21. Lupinus

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    I have had check card hold's that the bank charged me both when it went on hold and when it was actualy taken from the acount.
     
  22. larry_minn

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    I always make a offer. The seller can say no or make a counter offer. IF I am buying multiple things. (Gun/holster/ammo/etc) then I make a group offer. When they raise it I often accept it if they throw in some ear plugs/shooting glasses/targets/etc. (cheap stuff)
    A person SHOULD get something for having to deal with THEIR mistakes. I spent over one HOUR and 20 minutes over 4 days *business days* to get a $160 credit on my card. I finally got a gal (fourth person I was passed to/start all over/explain THEIR program) who said something like this. "Ok I understand, This is very simple to fix I just change this to 6% like the contract says and multiply it by purchases and I get $160 and that is not credited to your account. I am sorry for this and the time it took to fix it." Took her less then 4minutes to understand/fix problem. Other calls I was on hold for 10 minutes (I hang up at 10 minutes on hold) (they have my call back number)
     
  23. Dionysusigma

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    Bought a Yugo M48 today. :D However, I am still a person of limited means...

    Me: "Please convince me to buy this."

    Owner of store: "I'll toss in a 70-round bandoleer for free." (70-round bandoleers are $10 at this place)

    Me: "Done." :)
     
  24. mr.trooper

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    No worries Billy. He actualy jinked me a bit on the first gun i got from him :p about $50 to high. That, and i buy range time from him all the time. That store has been there for over a decade. I think he will be ok.
     
  25. TrapdoorBilly

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    Maybe at least $50.00. Probably gets ya and everyone else on the range time too. :)
     
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