Stoopid Gun Store!

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I got my last purchase, a NIB Ruger M77 MKII, for about 5% over dealer price

Was it the dealers actual invoice price or "dealers cost". "Dealers cost" as set by Ruger is 18% off "Retail Price" as set by Ruger. Distributors cost is 36% off retail. Most large dealers pay 30-32.5% off retail cost. Some dealers may get up to 34.5% off retail plus dating (payment not due for 3, 6, or more months). It is dog eat dog in the distributors world and a smart dealer can do very well with pricing. Some sporting lines are avalible for up to 61% off retail and more. The entire line!! I once worked as a buyer for a large sporting goods store and know of what I speak. We bought most lines direct and at pricing better than most distributors had. In the distributors world, what you are paying for a product line is a highly guarded secret. You are aways trying to get a better price than all the other distributors to give yourself a pricing advantage. We used distributors for "fill in" when we didn't buy enough of a product line to last untill our next order (some lines we only could order as little as once a year). With Ruger, dealers have to buy through a distributor after the big S&W thing in the mid 80's (Ruger cut out most of their distributors and would only let a distributor sell their product if they didn't handle S&W...came out to 36 distributors when the dust cleared). One Ruger distributor we bought from was located in an area that they had a hard time moveing handguns. They would dump handguns in our market at a loss (when dating was figured in). Our other Ruger suppliers were not very happy about it.

I have been out of the business for about 15 years and I am sure some things have changed, but many are the same. Just don't look at the "dealers cost" sticker on a new car and think thats what the auto dealer paid.

PS: We used to use "dealers cost" on the Ruger price sheet as our price to sell to the pubic. It saved any mathwork!!
 
I always expect my dealer to make a profit. But I will always negotiate. Why? The worst thing that will happen is he says "no".

I've heard "no" a lot in my life, but I get "yes" a lot too...

I never let my ego get in the way of the deal, either. Strictly business.

And once I do the deal, I don't look back... (only sometimes :eek: )
 
BRIAN:
How much? Quick.
HARRY THE HAGGLER:
What?
BRIAN:
It's for the wife.
HARRY THE HAGGLER:
Oh. Uhhh, twenty shekels.
BRIAN:
Right.
HARRY THE HAGGLER:
What?
BRIAN:
There you are.
HARRY THE HAGGLER:
Wait a minute.
BRIAN:
What?
HARRY THE HAGGLER:
Well, we're-- we're supposed to haggle.
BRIAN:
No, no. I've got to get--
HARRY THE HAGGLER:
What do you mean, 'no, no, no'?
BRIAN:
I haven't time. I've got--
HARRY THE HAGGLER:
Well, give it back, then.
BRIAN:
No, no, no. I just paid you.
HARRY THE HAGGLER:
Burt!
BURT:
Yeah?
HARRY THE HAGGLER:
This bloke won't haggle.
BURT:
Won't haggle?!
BRIAN:
All right. Do we have to?
HARRY THE HAGGLER:
Now, look. I want twenty for that.
BRIAN:
I-- I just gave you twenty.
HARRY THE HAGGLER:
Now, are you telling me that's not worth twenty shekels?
BRIAN:
No.
HARRY THE HAGGLER:
Look at it. Feel the quality. That's none of your goat.
BRIAN:
All right. I'll give you nineteen then.
HARRY THE HAGGLER:
No, no, no. Come on. Do it properly.
BRIAN:
What?
HARRY THE HAGGLER:
Haggle properly. This isn't worth nineteen.
BRIAN:
Well, you just said it was worth twenty.
HARRY THE HAGGLER:
Ohh, dear. Ohh, dear. Come on. Haggle.
BRIAN:
Huh. All right. I'll give you ten.
HARRY THE HAGGLER:
That's more like it. Ten?! Are you trying to insult me?! Me, with a poor dying grandmother?! Ten?!
BRIAN:
All right. I'll give you eleven.
HARRY THE HAGGLER:
Now you're gettin' it. Eleven?! Did I hear you right?! Eleven?! This cost me twelve. You want to ruin me?!
BRIAN:
Seventeen?
HARRY THE HAGGLER:
No, no, no, no. Seventeen.
BRIAN:
Eighteen?
HARRY THE HAGGLER:
No, no. You go to fourteen now.
BRIAN:
All right. I'll give you fourteen.
HARRY THE HAGGLER:
Fourteen?! Are you joking?!
[PICTURE]
BRIAN:
That's what you told me to say.
HARRY THE HAGGLER:
Ohh, dear.
BRIAN:
Ohh, tell me what to say. Please!
HARRY THE HAGGLER:
Offer me fourteen.
BRIAN:
I'll give you fourteen.
HARRY THE HAGGLER:
He's offering me fourteen for this!
BRIAN:
Fifteen!
HARRY THE HAGGLER:
Seventeen. My last word. I won't take a penny less, or strike me dead.
BRIAN:
Sixteen.
HARRY THE HAGGLER:
Done. Nice to do business with you.
BRIAN:
Huh.
HARRY THE HAGGLER:
Tell you what. I'll throw you in this as well.
BRIAN:
I don't want it, but thanks.
HARRY THE HAGGLER:
Burt!
BURT:
Yeah?
BRIAN:
All right! All right. All right.
HARRY THE HAGGLER:
Now, where's the sixteen you owe me?
BRIAN:
I just gave you twenty.
HARRY THE HAGGLER:
Oh, yeah. That's right. That's four I owe you, then.
BRIAN:
Well, that's all right. That's fine. That's fine.
HARRY THE HAGGLER:
No. Hang on. I've got it here somewhere.
BRIAN:
That's all right. That's four for the gourd.
HARRY THE HAGGLER:
Four? For this gourd? Four?! Look at it. It's worth ten if it's worth a shekel.
BRIAN:
But you just gave it to me for nothing.
HARRY THE HAGGLER:
Yes, but it's worth ten!
BRIAN:
All right. All right.
HARRY THE HAGGLER:
No, no, no, no. It's not worth ten. You're supposed to argue, 'Ten for that? You must be mad!' Ohh, well. [sniff] One born every minute.



- Monty Python "The Life of Brian"
 
i'm confused.

this was done on a bank debit card? why didnt they just put $125 on it and do another transaction when more money is put down on it?
 
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