Stovepipe - Glock 19

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I have about 2000 rounds through my Glock 19 and have never had any problems with it. Today at the range it ejected a live round and stovepiped it; caught it in the slide. This happened 2 times. It also ejected the last, live round from the magazine at one point. I also had an incident in which the slide locked back, as though the magazine was empty, but there was one more round left in the magazine, just sitting there on top of the follower.

Any ideas regarding what these symptoms might mean are appreciated. I keep the gun clean and lubed. I was using the same ammunition I always use at the range. I wasn’t doing anything different than usual.

I did notice some little dings in the surface of the follower of one of my magazine. Nothing major.

The Glock is all original parts. Nothing customized, nothing replaced.

I'm sure there's a simple explanation for this, I just don't know what it is.

Thanks!
 
Also check to see if you have the 9mm3 followers. The older ones caused similar problems to what you have stated particularly if you have spring that are getting weaker.
 
In my experience -- which isn't as extensive as some participating here, expecially with Glocks -- stovepipes are more frequently extractor related.

(What's happening, I think, is that the extractor is losing its grasp on the round before it gets pulled back to hit the ejector.)
 
I also had an incident in which the slide locked back, as though the magazine was empty, but there was one more round left in the magazine, just sitting there on top of the follower.
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Unless the follower portion that's designed to push the slide-stop upwards contacted the stop, which couldn't happen if a round was remaining, your thumb probably did it during recoil.
It also ejected the last, live round from the magazine at one point.
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I've encountered this several times earlier on the 10-rounders with the 2183 followers. I changed these 'hear-humped' followers with 9mm3's, the same ones found on my pre-bans. Problem went away. Glock also verifies problems with the 2183's during phone conversations. I don't know why they still install them.
 
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Weak mag spring is usually the culprit in a Bolt Over Base/Rideover Feed.
It's also a major player in the next to last round ejection/Last round
layin' in the port with the slide locked issue, along with a tired recoil spring.
A fresh Wolff mag spring will probably cure it.

That live round stovepipe can be dangerous. If the round gets hung up juuust right, the primer can pressure-detonate, and right there you've got
yourself a little-bitty fragmentation grenade about 2 feet from your face.

Aight now...Wun, Tew, Tree, Faw...
He's got dem double-stack, tiredass mag spring, jammin' up bluuuuues (In E, if you please)

Cheers!

Tuner
 
Perfessr may be correct, look at your followers and see what the stamping on the top says. If it says 2183 replace them. They are a bad design and can cause numerous problems. Use either 9mm3 or 9mm4(I actually prefer 9mm3). Of course it could also be time for spring replacement too.
 
Thanks for everyone's feedback. I bought some 9mm3 followers on eBay and will replace the recoil spring for starters. The current spring is looking a bit whimpy. Any advice on a good replacement, or is Stock-Glock the way to go?



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Sounds like your mag spring is weak. Does it just do it with one particular mag? Are your magazines CLEAN? Sometimes a good mag cleaning will solve the problem, but a new mag spring is cheap insurance - I'd just use the offending mag for range duty til corrected.

Most 2183 followers work like a charm - some don't - although the problem is usually just a failure to feed the last hollowpoint rd, a fmj rd usually works fine. The 9mm3 followers are suppose to cure the last rd feeding problem - given a proper spring.

To see if the recoil spring needs replacing: you can take your clean, EMPTY pistol, point it upward, pull the trigger and hold it (trigger) to the rear. Now, pull your slide back (down) and ease it forward (up), if it will pull itself all the way back into battery, your recoil spring is fine - if it stops short, you need a new one. Replacing the recoil spring and having weak mag springs will make the problems worse - it throws the timing off further. Better to have new mag springs than a new recoil spring in a Glock. Better yet to just replace both! They aren't expensive - call Glock and tell them of your problems and they might even send them to you for free! Let me know what you find..........

Ken
 
Update

Thanks to everyone for your advice. I replaced the recoil spring with a stock part from the local gun store. I also replaced the followers with 9mm3s. I did this to all 4 of my magazines. I did not replace the magazine springs, only because I have not gotten around to buying them yet. With the new recoil spring and followers I took the gun to the range today and went through about 100 rounds. Seems to work fine.
 
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