Stuck shell in resizing die

[wiiawiwb]

I've reloaded about 2,000 rounds of .45 Colt using the Lee 4-die set without incident. I decided to starting reloading for 9mm and bought a new Lee 4-die set (carbide die).

I'm using once-fired Winchester cases. The first case that I resized went just fine. The second case got stuck in the resizing die and pulled out from the die. So now I have the inner resizing shell stuck around the case.

Any thoughts how to remove the case? What would have caused this? It is a new die set, using once-fired brass and the die is carbide.

 

[Lafitte]

Send it to Lee.

Lafitte

 

[billybob44]

Lee Die defect...



You pulled out the Carbide ring from your brand new Lee die..Oh well, it lasted for the FIRST case???....

 

[PCCUSNRET]

Hope someone has an answer for you as I can't see how a stuck shell removal tool would be of any help. If the Lee die separates like this I don't see how you managed to size the first one. Redding and RCBS dies tear the rim off rifle brass if you don't use enough lube. I've never had a stuck piece of pistol brass but I don't believe the dies are are made to come apart like this one.

 

[bob4]

Never had it happen, but I'm a brave soul. I have ideas to remove this. Wouldn't be the first hard lesson for me.:banghead:

 

[Rule3]

It's not supposed to do that!

Phone(262) 673-3075

 

[Cheesemaker]

Call Lee and send it back.

And, in a separate thread I said Lee is good value for money - go figure. They will make it right. Let us know if they don't. First time I have seen that.

Update: Did you clean the dies before using them?

 

[rcmodel]

Yes, a very defective die!!

Send it back.

But if you must get it out?
Set the carbide ring in a open vice to support it.

Then drive the case out with a punch & hammer.

You could try gluing the carbide insert back in the die body with Red Locktight, or bearing mount.

But it really needs to be returned to Lee.

rc

 

[wiiawiwb]

Thanks guys. I tried calling earlier but just missed them. I'll try again in the morning.

I don't need nor even want to extract the stuck case and will send it back to Lee as is (assuming they want it).

I did not clean the dies before using.

 

[rcmodel]

You shouldn't need too clean them.

Carbide is harder & smoother then Woodpecker lips, with no oil.

And any factory oil left in them would only make them slicker then Owl DooDo.

(You don't want that, now do you??)

You got a defective die.

Plain & simple!

rc

 

[Bula]

Agreed, undersized carbide ring. Send it back.

 

[jmorris]

I would email them your photo. They will likely send you a new one and you won't have to waist money sending the scrap metal back to them.

A photo is all they have ever asked me for, for decapping pins.

 

[eastbank]

i have no use for lee products, i started to load 11mm mauser shells and needed a shell holder and ordered one with other things from graf,s, the shell holder lips broke off with the third or forth case and i called graf,s and they replaced it and the same thing happened with the new one. i called lee and they sent me another one,guess what same thing. i went on line to see if any one had the same trouble with their shell holders and a lot did and lee said they fixed it some time ago, they couldn,t have fixed the problem. the problem was the holders are very brittle and the lips broke off cleanly when pulling the sized case from the die. i bought a RCBS shell holder for the 11mm mauser and have loaded 100,s of shells with with out a problem., as a matter of fact i have never broken another sell holder from any other maker since i started reloading in 1958. true it didn,t cost me any thing but the original cost of the shell holder and my time about two weeks over all. eastbank.

 

[drband]

Any mfg can have a bad batch of parts. Bad metallurgy could have resulted in hundreds if not thousands of defective parts. Lee will make it right-- and will send you a new part without requiring the defective one shipped back. They are good folks!

 

[PCCUSNRET]

Any mfg can have a bad batch of parts. Bad metallurgy could have resulted in hundreds if not thousands of defective parts. Lee will make it right-- and will send you a new part without requiring the defective one shipped back. They are good folks!

No more Lee products for me either. They just charged me $6.00 + almost $6.00 for 2 broken decapping rods. Hornady and RCBS replace them for free.

 

[Captaingyro]

Too bad you can't get the carbide ring out of a FCD that easily.

 

[ROAshooter]

another reason I only have RCBS.....if I bend or break something....RCBS always replaces for free....

 

[Rule3]

No more Lee products for me either. They just charged me $6.00 + almost $6.00 for 2 broken decapping rods. Hornady and RCBS replace them for free.

LEE pins have a lifetime guarantee Stated in the Modern Reloading manual, How one breaks one is a mystery. 2 even more

Should not have been charged anything.

 

[wiiawiwb]

I called Lee and they said they would replace it free but wanted me to send the die back to them. That's good service on their part and that's all I can ask of them. It did leave me having to spend $5.25 to ship it back and wait 7-10 days to get the new one.

If a local gun shop had the resizing die in stock, I would had just bought it and be done with it.

 

[judgedelta]

I, like a lot of other folks on here, have used Lee Pistol dies for a good while with no problems. I happen to like the factory crimp die. You got a bad one; stuff happens. I do use RCBS rifle dies though.

 

[splattergun]

No more Lee products for me either. They just charged me $6.00 + almost $6.00 for 2 broken decapping rods. Hornady and RCBS replace them for free.

funny. I've broken 2 Lee decapping pins and both were replaced free. Both times, all I did was email a pic to Lee, and the replacement was in my mailbox 3 days later.

 

[PCCUSNRET]

funny. I've broken 2 Lee decapping pins and both were replaced free. Both times, all I did was email a pic to Lee, and the replacement was in my mailbox 3 days later.

Maybe I got a new employee as she didn't offer to replace the broken pins at no cost. Actually, there were 3 broken decapping pins, 2 from decapping dies and one from a 243 sizing die. They also shipped and charged me for an extra 243 decapping pin. It's not that I mind paying for them since I did break them, but why guarantee them as unbreakable then make me pay for replacements? And yes, I did tell them they were to replace ones that I had broken.

Just like they are making the OP pay for shipping to return the stuck die. IMO they should have asked for a photo and then offered to pay shipping for returning the defective die.

 

[drband]

Maybe I got a new employee as she didn't offer to replace the broken pins at no cost. Actually, there were 3 broken decapping pins, 2 from decapping dies and one from a 243 sizing die. They also shipped and charged me for an extra 243 decapping pin. It's not that I mind paying for them since I did break them, but why guarantee them as unbreakable then make me pay for replacements? And yes, I did tell them they were to replace ones that I had broken.



Just like they are making the OP pay for shipping to return the stuck die. IMO they should have asked for a photo and then offered to pay shipping for returning the defective die.

I sent a photo of a powder measure riser with bad threads and they sent me a new one. Might be worth an email to CS with a pic attached outlining what the phone rep told you.

 

[Sunray]

That's not bad metallurgy. It's a factory defect. Can't say as I've ever seen one like it before though.
"...she didn't offer to replace the broken pins at no cost..." Lee's warrantee isn't like that of RCBS.

 

[Rule3]

Even if they did not apply a "lifetime" warranty, their regular warranty is 2 yrs.

I have never paid for anything. Sent a picture and was done.

Did you give the secret password?