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Stupid range rules...

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by leadcounsel, Oct 7, 2012.

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  1. leadcounsel

    leadcounsel member

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    My range has some stupid range rules. I can live with them, but they are just dumb.

    First, the dumbest. Silhouette targets cannot have ANY human features. No picturs of Osama Bin Laden for instance. Okay, I can *maybe* understand that. Then, no Zombie silhouettes?! Huh?? And finally, I was spoken to yesterday for taking large paper and drawing with a marker literally a silhouetted that had eyes and a mouth. I was told not to do that. Are you kidding me!?

    Second, 8 rounds max in ANY gun. Supposedly it's either because of the M1 Garand or insurance reasons (in the event someones weapons goes full auto...). Both are really stupid reasons. How are you supposed to reliably test your high-cap mags to capacity?

    I appreciate the range and it's close, convenient, and inexpensive... but these rules are just dumb.

    Anyone else deal with absurd rules...?
     
  2. Shadow 7D

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    Um, get on the board, point out the difficulties, and who is trying to enforce these
     
  3. tyeo098

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    The first range I went to said no exposed lead. (Soft points, LRN, etc)
    I stood there all quizzical, and asked if they knew what happened to a bullet when it hit their steel backstop. They said it was the rules. Also said I couldn't pick up my own brass.

    Being a reloader those were BOTH deal killers. Never went back.

    Switched ranges after that. Now I can shoot whatever I want (inc. steel core surplus Nagant food) and pick up all the brass I want. (Provided I ask the person who is leaving it there if it is not mine).

    I love my range <3
     
  4. Kyle M.

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    I really like my local range even though it's only about 100 yards theres hardly anyone ever there and you can use whatever you want as a target, and shoot whatever you want. Theres surprisingly not even a posting of rules or anyone around to report any issues too. It's just there and you shoot.
     
  5. Flashcube

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    The private range I'm a member with has a six round limit. I assume it is a holdover from when revolvers were the dominant handgun used in their pistol matches. No one will get on your case if you load a few more though so long as you're not just blasting away.

    I go to the local outdoor range when I'm in the mood to just turn money into smoke and noise. :D
     
  6. DNS

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    Really liked our local range but they've had some kids getting ignorant lately and I'm certain they sneak in and raise heck. Anyhow they decided to make all members this year go through a several hour safety course. :mad:

    Pass.

    I'm just gonna get some unincorporared land and set up my own.
     
  7. bhhacker

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    Wow. a range that wont let you pick up your own brass? Its all about squeezing out all that profit isnt it?

    In Austin, id pay 17/hr plus targets to shoot at an indoor range and they would run on by and sweep up my brass after firing.

    I told them politely to knock that off. I was already getting had for paying that much for range time, then they wanted to steal all my brass too!

    I much prefer the outside range up here in Juneau! Its free! (well, donations are accepted)
     
  8. Inebriated

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    You kind of knew better, though. Why do you need it to have a face? Put a small circle where the head would be, a small circle where the vitals would be, and call it a day. It's stupid, but that's the way it is.
    Put a snap cap in after what would be the 8th shot, and show them that the gun won't cycle past that round.
    No, and I wouldn't put up with them unless absolutely necessary.
     
  9. Certaindeaf

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    I went shooting at a place not long ago and the nice young fellows next to me said I could have their brass. So after they leave, I'm coal shoveling it up when an adamant young female "rangemaster" tells me that I can't do that. I said that it was mine/given me.. had to do that a couple/three times. I got my brass.
     
  10. JohnM

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    I'm so glad if I want to shoot I just walk out side.
     
  11. Certaindeaf

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    Anyone can do that. Elvis used to shoot his TV.
     
  12. Blackstone

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    Sounds like you're slowly becoming like us Brits. Targets resembling humans are officially banned here. Pepper poppers are probably the most you can get away with.
     
  13. Arkansas Paul

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    No stupid rules where I shoot. I just joined, but have been there several times as a guest.

    The only one they're really strict about is that all shots fired must impact a berm. No shooting at cans and stuff on the ground. I can understand that here though. It's on the side of a mountain basically and the ground is extremely rocky. Ricochets would be an issue, no doubt.

    I absolutely would not shoot at a range that wouldn't let people keep their own brass that they brought. I'd just drive out in the country until I found a suitable spot first. Of course I realize that everyone doesn't have that luxury.
     
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    A range, which hosts IDPA matches, and does not allow "rapid fire" on the pistol range...

    I got tired of the owner browbeating me and other members and took my money to the other side of town, where the primary rules are don't shoot anybody, and leave the range better than you found it.
     
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    I'm in the same sorry boat as JohnM. I shoot Elvis' TV as fast as I want.

    And no one bitches.

    Jeez.
     
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    How are you supposed to reliably test your high-cap mags to capacity?

    Let's call the position of top round #1 and the bottom one position #30.

    Load and shoot 8 rounds until you're happy with the results. That checks position #1, #2, ..., #8.

    Load 8 dummy rounds then 8 live ones. Shoot the 8 live ones, repeat until you're happy. That verifies function of positions #9, ..., #16.

    Load 16 dummies and 8 live, that verifies position #17, ...,#24, and so on.

    I think those rules, as well as the all too common '2 seconds between shots'(1) are intended to keep people from shooting up target holders and so on. A better rule, IMHO, is shoot as much/fast as you want, as long as you are keeping them all on the paper.

    (1)That one bothers me more - you can practice defensive shooting w/ plain silhouettes and you can download mags, but there is no way around a 2 sec rule.
     
  17. JohnM

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    I've been tempted.
     
  18. Certaindeaf

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    "We" just make the odd "anti-" movie perhaps.. right. dang 1'st amendment.. can't have that!
     
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    I would be looking for another range or at least look at my options.

    I am a member of a private range within 20 minutes (probably more like 10 minutes) of where I live. But, I often drive about an hour to a public range just because I am usually the only person there shooting and I don't have to pay much attention to "range rules" other than to be safe.
     
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    The rules you've shown do seem silly to me.

    Most ranges rules I heartily agree with.

    :cool:
     
  21. hso

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    The 8 round rule seems arbitrary and strange.

    I can understand the no faces so drawing in the eyes and mouth would get you spanked.

    I agree that if it is a club you should become involved by joining the board.
     
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    My range sells Osama targets
     
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    the no human form thing is a politically correct racial issue.my brass is my brass.have them arrested for petty theft.police training mostly uses blue Silhouette targets because somebody complained that it was training them to shoot blacks.so now everything is gender neutral
     
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  24. JRWhit

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    Sounds like you should take your money elsewhere.
    I understand needs for them but, they are one size fits all rules due to the irresponsible few that warrant them. At the range I attend on occasion,when the weather sucks to much to shoot at the house, they go by ability. If the range master sees that you are capable and not just randomly spraying bullets, rapid fire is o.k. based on ability of the shooter. There is no capacity limit,it is just as simple as if you are not deemed safe in practice then you will be asked to leave. Policing your own brass is allowed. On another note they sell brass that is not picked up, usually about $20 for 250 pieces of a given caliber.
    I can never understand why things can't be as simple. I'f somebody is doing something unsafe, make them stop or kick them out. Don't make new rules for everybody because of the few and far between.
     
  25. checkmyswag

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    Again...thankful I have access to such a good gun range...now I just need to use it more!
     
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