LeonCarr
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While your out measuring grass in people's yards, if you see a solicitor going door to door ask to see his permit 
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Just my .02,
LeonCarr
.Just my .02,
LeonCarr
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ctdonath
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I'll take that as a personal insult, if you don't mind.
Unlike what some believe, many/most HOA board members are NOT wringing their hands with glee as they seek out violations to punish. Frankly, I don't care what you do so long as what you do doesn't significantly affect my property value. I'm actually on the HOA board primarily to PREVENT the board from doing stupid stuff, and once I figure out a way to dissolve the covenants & board entirely I'll pursue it.
Funny how people get so peeved off at HOA boards for getting over-involved and interfering with private property, yet complain that the board "won't do a thing about unpermitted door to door solicitors who might be casing your house for a burglary or home invasion" - to wit: don't do what they can't do. We COULD put up surveillance cameras, or hire armed guards to patrol the area, but that will drive your HOA dues thru the roof.
Funny how those who loudly complain about the board won't lift a finger to assist, much less actually join, the board to do that which a local government (which an HOA effectively is) should do. Heck, we can barely get a quorum to show up at the annual homeowners' meeting.
Just like "real" government: if you don't like what's being done, or not being done, GET INVOLVED AND QUIT YOUR WHINING. (And one good way to get involved is get your local gov't to stop requiring developers to force covenants on buyers!)
Unlike what some believe, many/most HOA board members are NOT wringing their hands with glee as they seek out violations to punish. Frankly, I don't care what you do so long as what you do doesn't significantly affect my property value. I'm actually on the HOA board primarily to PREVENT the board from doing stupid stuff, and once I figure out a way to dissolve the covenants & board entirely I'll pursue it.
Funny how people get so peeved off at HOA boards for getting over-involved and interfering with private property, yet complain that the board "won't do a thing about unpermitted door to door solicitors who might be casing your house for a burglary or home invasion" - to wit: don't do what they can't do. We COULD put up surveillance cameras, or hire armed guards to patrol the area, but that will drive your HOA dues thru the roof.
Funny how those who loudly complain about the board won't lift a finger to assist, much less actually join, the board to do that which a local government (which an HOA effectively is) should do. Heck, we can barely get a quorum to show up at the annual homeowners' meeting.
Just like "real" government: if you don't like what's being done, or not being done, GET INVOLVED AND QUIT YOUR WHINING. (And one good way to get involved is get your local gov't to stop requiring developers to force covenants on buyers!)
They could make the regulation, they could not enforce it.
They do a lot of stupid stuff in the name of keeping property values up. They would have to prove it did that, which they can't.
Overall the HOA is typically not the problem, the neighboring busy body calling the board members all the time are the problems.
Yard signs are the most common defeat, especially political ones. Fines on others for expression have not withstood the courts, especially political speech and the right to express that speech in an unintrusive manner.
I feel sorry for some board members, and others are pretty much just stupid people. Pretty much a fact of life is that others lives are so boring they must involve themselves into yours.
They do a lot of stupid stuff in the name of keeping property values up. They would have to prove it did that, which they can't.
Overall the HOA is typically not the problem, the neighboring busy body calling the board members all the time are the problems.
Yard signs are the most common defeat, especially political ones. Fines on others for expression have not withstood the courts, especially political speech and the right to express that speech in an unintrusive manner.
I feel sorry for some board members, and others are pretty much just stupid people. Pretty much a fact of life is that others lives are so boring they must involve themselves into yours.
LeonCarr
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Mr. CTDonath,
I apologize for any insult, and insulting you was not my intent. My intent was to show that many HOAs go overboard on the small things, but not on the big things that really matter.
Again, I apologize.
LeonCarr
I apologize for any insult, and insulting you was not my intent. My intent was to show that many HOAs go overboard on the small things, but not on the big things that really matter.
Again, I apologize.
LeonCarr
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Very good Coronach. It is rather amusing the number of people who get into contractual relationships and then decide that they are not obligated to abide by parameters of the contract that they don't like, then complain about how wrong they are being treated when they were the ones that freely agreed to the parameters.
Unpermitted door to door solicitors are not members of the HOA. How they can enforce the HOA rules is through civil suits and filing of liens against your property which are a couple of ways contractual disagreements are settled.
Unpermitted door to door solicitors are not members of the HOA. How they can enforce the HOA rules is through civil suits and filing of liens against your property which are a couple of ways contractual disagreements are settled.
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