Liberty1776
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nope, don't want one - bad juju...
Suicide gun...would you want one?
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I wouldn't look for but I would avoid one, either. As long as it wasn't damaged by blood corrosion I wouldn't care.
I own one gun that I know for a fact was used in a fatal shooting and numerous police/military guns that certainly could have been and I am not concerned by it.
Just tools.
I own one gun that I know for a fact was used in a fatal shooting and numerous police/military guns that certainly could have been and I am not concerned by it.
Just tools.
Onward Allusion
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It's a hunk of metal. I highly doubt it would have absorbed any negative energies from a suicide unless the deceased had great emotional attachment to the gun.
As an aside, with all the police trades out there, I bet that there are quite a few that have killed or maimed. I wouldn't hesitate to buy a police trade...
As an aside, with all the police trades out there, I bet that there are quite a few that have killed or maimed. I wouldn't hesitate to buy a police trade...
Had one, sort of. Police dept in another state "destroyed" a suicide pistol by smelting the frame, then sold all the other parts to a dealer who sold them to me. I put them on a bare 459 frame that another PD armory had lost all the other parts to. It worked fine, but was never very accurate, so I sold it to a relative who sold it to a buddy who died a few weeks later in a car accident.
Weird, actually.
Weird, actually.
wriggly
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A good friend killed himself a few years ago with a Taurus stainless snubby. The investigating police dept took all his guns. A month or so later, I picked up all of them for his wife except the one he used, and she asked me to try to sell them for her.
After the inquest, they called her and told her that she could pick up that gun too. I went to pick it up, and it had blood on it, and it was loaded, except for the one spent case from him killing himself. I wont embarrass the agency that did this by naming the dept.
The wife did not want the gun, so I gave her $100 for it, and I cleaned it up, and was going to relagate it to nightstand duty, but it bothered me a little, so I sold it to my son in law, doesn't seem to bother him at all.
After the inquest, they called her and told her that she could pick up that gun too. I went to pick it up, and it had blood on it, and it was loaded, except for the one spent case from him killing himself. I wont embarrass the agency that did this by naming the dept.
The wife did not want the gun, so I gave her $100 for it, and I cleaned it up, and was going to relagate it to nightstand duty, but it bothered me a little, so I sold it to my son in law, doesn't seem to bother him at all.
paramedic70002
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Would you go to a hospital where someone had died?
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I worked a fatality crash a few years ago where the kid died a particularly gruesome death, yet the vehicle was far from totaled. Sometimes I wonder if the family had it fixed or got rid of it.
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I worked a fatality crash a few years ago where the kid died a particularly gruesome death, yet the vehicle was far from totaled. Sometimes I wonder if the family had it fixed or got rid of it.
Many years ago, a fellow I was working with approached me about disposing of his brother's suicide gun. The family simply wanted it gone, and he knew I was an avid pistol shooter and FFL holder. They didn't want to sell it, just wanted it gone. It was a 6" S&W 586, in excellent condition. The family was requesting donations to a local suicide prevention hotline in lieu of flowers, so I wrote them a check for the value of the gun, payable to the hotline.
The local PD turned the gun over to the family at the scene - he'd left a note, and there was no doubt. The gun was not damaged, nor was it haunted. It was, however, stolen in a burglary a couple of years later.
The local PD turned the gun over to the family at the scene - he'd left a note, and there was no doubt. The gun was not damaged, nor was it haunted. It was, however, stolen in a burglary a couple of years later.
Dnaltrop
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It's a thing, albeit with a history.
It would certainly make collecting C&R's difficult if you avoided the obvious possibility of previous use in all of your purchases.
It would certainly make collecting C&R's difficult if you avoided the obvious possibility of previous use in all of your purchases.
PT92
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Hitler's Suicide Gun
Both the thread as well as the fact that I just watched a great movie called "Valkyrie" made me think of this. Tom Cruise had no believable german accent but outside of this, I found it to be a work of art
(weaponry in the film was 'spot on.'). Link below if anyone is curious.
That said, I cannot seem to locate a definitive source on what happened to Hitler's suicide gun--does anyone know? I am guessing the Russians got to it or did that bunker burn beyond recognition (even a burnt gun would fetch $$$$)?
http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Valkyrie
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Both the thread as well as the fact that I just watched a great movie called "Valkyrie" made me think of this. Tom Cruise had no believable german accent but outside of this, I found it to be a work of art
(weaponry in the film was 'spot on.'). Link below if anyone is curious.That said, I cannot seem to locate a definitive source on what happened to Hitler's suicide gun--does anyone know? I am guessing the Russians got to it or did that bunker burn beyond recognition (even a burnt gun would fetch $$$$)?
http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Valkyrie
-Cheers
Hunterdad
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Nope, nope and nope. Wouldn't want anything to do with it. I know that it wasn't the guns fault, but it just wouldn't feel right.
DHJenkins
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Wouldn't bother me any more than sitting in a hospital bed that someone else had died in (and that's pretty much all of them).
If you're really going to buy in to some sort of anthropomorphic nonsense, then why do you not take the other side? It's a proven life-taker. When the time came for it to function, it clearly did; I'd call it a selling point, not a curse.
If you're really going to buy in to some sort of anthropomorphic nonsense, then why do you not take the other side? It's a proven life-taker. When the time came for it to function, it clearly did; I'd call it a selling point, not a curse.
PT92
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The point for me (and obviously this is a subjective thread so to each his own) is that I would never take the "hospital bed" (of which I have 'no-choice') home with me.
Just to reiterate, I can see each side of the issue so it's entirely a personal thing.
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ObsidianOne
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As long as it's clean, why not?
I have the .357 that my father was shot with (he wasn't killed though) and treasure it as my favorite gun.
I also have a prewar Mosin Nagant that I'm sure was used to kill German soldiers in World War II and god knows where else. Still love it
I have the .357 that my father was shot with (he wasn't killed though) and treasure it as my favorite gun.
I also have a prewar Mosin Nagant that I'm sure was used to kill German soldiers in World War II and god knows where else. Still love it
SlowFuse
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I own one. Stevens 94 20 gauge. My mothers uncle took his life with it back in the 60's. I never knew him, being that I was born in 86, so that may have something to do with it not bothering me. Had it been someone I knew personally, I think it would have to be sold or given to someone else. I probably wouldn't keep it.
tried to buy one from a police station that i interned at once. brand new 870 express, only fired once, but the finish was just about destroyed. i figured would rather have a couple hundred bucks than a blood filled gun but they didnt seem too eager to sell it. not sure why, but i figured it was best to not push the subject.
PlayTheAces
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My brother has one that was used by a member of our family to take her own life. If for some reason he no longer wanted it, I'd take it without thinking twice. Like it or not, it's something forever linked to our family.
shiftyer1
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If the gun was used on a family member, I can't say. Anywhere from shattered and melted to set aside to save the memories.
I'm not really worried about spooks, just the sentimental part.
I wouldn't be bothered by owning a murder weapon. I wouldn't start a collection on them but a tool is a tool. There is no personal connection, military guns don't count. That was/is a job, and an honorable job.
My cousin couldn't bear to see my grandfathers pocketknife after he passed and I really wanted it. Still haven't carried it but its a comfort to have
I'm not really worried about spooks, just the sentimental part.
I wouldn't be bothered by owning a murder weapon. I wouldn't start a collection on them but a tool is a tool. There is no personal connection, military guns don't count. That was/is a job, and an honorable job.
My cousin couldn't bear to see my grandfathers pocketknife after he passed and I really wanted it. Still haven't carried it but its a comfort to have
easyg
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Well, I'm not a spiritual man...agnostic, don't believe in ghost, don't believe in heaven or hell...but I have seen some things in my life that are just hard to explain.
And I have seen some items that, for lack of a better word, just seem cursed.
When I was stationed in Korea we had one specific tank that seemed, for lack of a better word, cursed.
Numerous soldiers injured, one that was killed, all kinds of phantom mechanical and electrical problems.
Just full of gremlins.
The crew hated it and nobody in the platoon wanted anything to do with it.
The KATUSA's (Korean soldiers attached to our unit) were downright scared of it.
So, no, I wouldn't want a firearm that I knew was used for suicide.
And I have seen some items that, for lack of a better word, just seem cursed.
When I was stationed in Korea we had one specific tank that seemed, for lack of a better word, cursed.
Numerous soldiers injured, one that was killed, all kinds of phantom mechanical and electrical problems.
Just full of gremlins.
The crew hated it and nobody in the platoon wanted anything to do with it.
The KATUSA's (Korean soldiers attached to our unit) were downright scared of it.
So, no, I wouldn't want a firearm that I knew was used for suicide.
XD Fan
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I once lived in an apartment that Harmon Kilabrew lived in when he played AA ball. Didn't help my batting average or make me hit more home runs. No positive energy there. I don't think a suicide gun would have negative energy. Still, if it had been used by someone I was close too, my own memories and association would probably cause me to say no.
Nazi Gun is different.
I think a Jew owning a Nazi gun is a nice way to continue to troll the Third Reich.
I actually got a Colt 1903 recently (excerpted from another thread)(manufactured in the 1920s), it's worn but still shoots and functions fine. Now when I went to buy it (and I had already paid so it wasn't a sales pitch), I was told it was traded in by a Warrington Twp police officer who acquired it from seized evidence. I jokingly said, "oh well at least it didn't get used to kill anyone", to which I was told it apparently was used to kill two people trying to break into a guys house and the cop later acquired it after it no longer had evidentiary value/need. Now it could all be gun store bull, but there was no reason to tell me it as I had already bought the item. Now I can't (or haven't tried yet) to verify it's history), but it gives the gun an odd vibe when I hold it. More so because it has a rust stain/splatter that may not be rust!
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Before I acquired it, it probably wouldn't make me any more or less likely to want it - either it's a good gun, for the price, or it isnt.
When I acquired a Garand in a private transaction, I was actually kind of glad it turned out to be a mid-80s Springfield re-run, rather than a weapon that was wielded by a GI or Marine in WWII or Korea.
Not having served myself in the military, I would have felt... unworthy.
When I acquired a Garand in a private transaction, I was actually kind of glad it turned out to be a mid-80s Springfield re-run, rather than a weapon that was wielded by a GI or Marine in WWII or Korea.
Not having served myself in the military, I would have felt... unworthy.
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The rather crude (and I suppose somewhat funny the first time I heard it) joke told by the local state police who seem to spend more time at this particular shop than actually working is, when a person asks why a long number is stenciled rather sloppily in to the slide or barrel or whatever, they are told it's an evidence number and all it really means is, the last time it was used, it worked.
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