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Suppressing Deer Rifle

Discussion in 'NFA Firearms and Accessories' started by Mencius, Dec 14, 2012.

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  1. Mencius

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    I have a pretty decent (for me at least) 308 bolt action I use deer hunting. It has a 24" bull barrel in stainless. Will threading it for a suppressor affect the accuracy? Will threading mess up the crown or anything?

    I kinda don't want to mess it up because it works beautifully now and was a graduation gift from my parents, but I really would like to tone it down somewhat.
     
  2. Telekinesis

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    If it is threaded by a competent gunsmith, it should not hurt the crown of the barrel or the accuracy of the gun (just make sure the gunsmith makes the threads concentric to the bore). Attaching a good suppressor will usually help accuracy a tad as well, though it will often change your point of impact.

    Obviously make sure it is legal for you to hunt with a suppressed weapon in your state before you do. I would also recommend you stay with standard supersonic ammo for hunting. Subsonic rifle ammo is great for trying to make the gun quiet, but it will not have the same terminal performance as your normal supersonic hunting loads.
     
  3. Swampman

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    If done properly, threading won't cause any problems with your rifle. I would recommend that you have the work done by a shop experienced with suppressor work. As Telekinesis pointed out, the threads must be cut concentric to the BORE, not the barrel itself. A typical flash hider or muzzle brake threading job can be off enough to cause baffle strikes.
    In addition, a really experienced shop should be able to cut you a thread protector that perfectly matches your barrel contour, leaving the fact that your barrel is threaded almost impossible to detect when installed.
     
  4. MDW GUNS

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    If professional done it makes no difference in accuracy, in some cases it actually helps.
    One thing you want to make sure first is, that the states you want to use it for hunting allow it.
    Maine for example does not allow NFA weapons for hunting.
     
  5. Captains1911

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    I think everybody above pretty much covered it...
     
  6. hentown

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    Lots of states, even down here in America, don't permit suppressors for hunting purposes.
     
  7. Bubbles

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    And many others do. I've legally used one on my deer rifle in VA, PA, and WV.
     
  8. Girodin

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    I don't know if things have changed in the last 8-9 months but:

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    As always, however, one should do adequate research and check the laws of any area they plan to hunt prior to using a suppressor.
     
  9. Aikibiker

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    That info for FL is incomplete. If you are hunting in Florida you should contact the FL FWC for information, be sure to include species and where you intend to hunt, private property, wildlife management area, etc.
     
  10. Pistol Ranch

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    Please help me understand why anyone would put a supressor on a deer rifle:confused:
     
  11. SeanMTX

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    Because the rifle is loud.
     
  12. Davek1977

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    MAybe he likes his ears? Even single shots can cause damage, and not everyone likes to hunt with ear protection on.....Why NOT suppress a deer rifle if legal? If it weren't for the tax stamps and cost, EVERY gun of mine would be suppressed for such reasons
     
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    Exactly. I would love to be able to stick a suppressor on my .30-06 for big game hunting. It is a supersonic round and will not be silent, but will be a lot easier on the ears. Also... a shotgun suppressor would be nice as well for birds.

    Silencer is a misnomer.

    Last year Montana almost made it legal to use a suppressor hunting... almost.
     
  14. Girodin

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    Please help me understand why anyone wouldn't want to. As far as I can tell, the only reason most folks don't is because of government regulation. If it wasn't for the silly regulations I'd wager most hunters would have them. Hearing protection, reduced recoil, and for some an increase in accuracy. What is not to like.

    In Europe, from what I saw when I was there, its a pretty common practice. See e.g.:

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  15. Mencius

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    I shot a deer the last day of the season this year and it just seemed loud. I don't kill a ton of deer every year, but my hearing ain't getting any better it seems.

    Also, I don't get as good of a cheek weld when I use the over the ear muffs and in ear protectors muffle everything which makes it hard to hear them sneaking up on me. A suppressor seems like a great solution. Why wouldn't someone use a suppressor (other than the cost and hassle)? I guess it does add a little weight and length. I just wish there was a better way to get rid of the supersonic crack rather than subsonic ammo. Admittedly, though, I did not take one shot more than 65 yards this year...
     
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    Big NO NO in Germany.
     
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    I've taken deer with subsonic .308 rounds in areas where I knew I wouldn't have a shot longer than 75 yards due to dense vegetation. They are quite effective when used at that distance. As a bonus the other deer don't get startled when I shoot, so I often manage to take two does within a short time period on properties where the deer are overpopulated.
     
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    Admittedly, Germany is not one of the countries I spent time in, at least not where I saw any hunting. I should have been more specific or qualified my statement by saying "in parts of Europe."
     
  19. hq

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    Exactly. The same reason why cars have mufflers.

    Around here suppressors on hunting rifles are extremely common, so much that they're almost a norm. There's a definite advantage in protecting your own hearing, that of your hunting buddies and that of your dog. Not to mention not annoying your neighbors. In some places not using one is frowned upon, much like removing the muffler from your ATV. Noise is pollution, after all.
     
  20. Captains1911

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    Is this a serious question?
     
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    Same as you put a muffler on your car.
    Because hearing aids are expensive and they don't work all that well.

    Turn off the TV and think.
     
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    Deer hunting with a tie. Classic!
     
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    Here in Sweden it is rather popular to use suppressors on deer rifles. It's a no brainer really; less recoil, less noise (both for you and the dog). This obviously helps marksmanship as well.

    All rifles and suppressors are as hard or harder to get a permit for than your NFA items. Do not lose the upcoming gun control debate of 2013, thank you.
     
  24. PedalBiker

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    As a side note. A suppressor is not sufficient to prevent hearing damage from a high powered rifle.

    Practical sized suppressors for a hunting rifle cut the sound a lot, but sound is logarithmic, not linear. Even cutting the sound to 1/10 is only 10dB.

    A .22 is around 140dB while a 308 is more like 160dB. Hearing damage starts around 120dB for short bursts.
     
  25. Mencius

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    I have read that suppressors reduce the noise by 20 to 30 db, which is a pretty good bit methinks. Then, throw in some subsonic ammo and it should be significantly better on the ears. In person it really seems like night and day, even though I have only heard it once.
     
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