FreuderLocks
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Where are some good online stores for finding surplus guns? I tried Gunbroker but their selection of TT33's and CZ52's appears to be a bit sparse and expensive. Any help would be appreciated
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TehK1w1
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The Makarov is the most boringly reliable semi I've ever shot.Red Tornado said:
JGsales.com, aimsurplus.com, southernohiogun.com, and a couple others I can't remember at the moment.FreuderLocks said:
Can you tell I like milsurps?
I've got a few, looking for more.
(Anyone got a P64 they wanna sell me?
)BHP FAN
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BHP Argentine milsurp
BHP Canadian MKI*
Tokarev
Nagant
Webley
PA-63
Makarov
1917 S&W
2 Ballester Molinas
I'll probably add another Nagant.
BHP Canadian MKI*
Tokarev
Nagant
Webley
PA-63
Makarov
1917 S&W
2 Ballester Molinas
I'll probably add another Nagant.
jackstinson
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Uh, yes I buy surplus hand guns...they are great bargains. Some I've bought lately are:
Bulgarian Makarov
Hungarian FEG PA-63
Hungarian FEG AP-7
Polish Radom P-64
Beretta M1935
CZ82
Bulgarian Makarov
Hungarian FEG PA-63
Hungarian FEG AP-7
Polish Radom P-64
Beretta M1935
CZ82
BothellBob
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"Ok We've All seen The $79 Nagant and TT-33 In SGN So how do these "Surplus Sidearms" Handle Anyone bought any surplus handguns What kind how would you rate them Would you buy others"
The phrasing of the original post seems to be begging a question, but I can't guess what that might be. Are you assuming some particular use? Why wouldn't a person acquire surplus arms? I have a Nagant and a Makarov and am pleased with them both. Military arms were usually well designed and very reliable. Antiques and classic oldies are also great fun. So long as there's room in the safe I'll be looking for more.
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The phrasing of the original post seems to be begging a question, but I can't guess what that might be. Are you assuming some particular use? Why wouldn't a person acquire surplus arms? I have a Nagant and a Makarov and am pleased with them both. Military arms were usually well designed and very reliable. Antiques and classic oldies are also great fun. So long as there's room in the safe I'll be looking for more.
-BothellBob
Devilfrog
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Yes, I've bought a few. I enjoy having firearms that have some history behind them.
Springfield M1 Garand
Springfield M1903
German K98 Mauser
Russian Mosin Nagant 91/30
Czech CZ82
Russian SKS
Springfield M1 Garand
Springfield M1903
German K98 Mauser
Russian Mosin Nagant 91/30
Czech CZ82
Russian SKS
Kurt S.
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Not "a surplus sidearm", but several...
1 - Chinese 54 (Tokarev T-33)
1 - Bulgarian Makarov
1 - S&W M66 "Cop turn-in"
2-1/2 - CZ52 flamethrowers
Looking to add a Nagant. a CZ-70, and a P1.
1 - Chinese 54 (Tokarev T-33)
1 - Bulgarian Makarov
1 - S&W M66 "Cop turn-in"
2-1/2 - CZ52 flamethrowers
Looking to add a Nagant. a CZ-70, and a P1.
Carl
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A Walther P38 looks awfully nice.
Yoda
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Don't turn your nose up at a PA-63
They are inexpensive, reliable, and easy to conceal. If some idiot New Orleans cop wants to "confiscate" it, you can be outraged, but you won't be out all that much money, and you sure won't worry about losing a collectable. I've bought four so far.
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They are inexpensive, reliable, and easy to conceal. If some idiot New Orleans cop wants to "confiscate" it, you can be outraged, but you won't be out all that much money, and you sure won't worry about losing a collectable. I've bought four so far.
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krs
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I've currently got four EG Makarovs (although it looks like one will be leaving) A Star B (GREAT skinny carry gun in 9mm)-had two but one sold last week in GB) four CZ50's and a CZ70, one CZ52, two CZ82's, one Norinco 9mm copy of TT33 in 9mm (GREAT skinny carry gun), a Webley Mk VI converted to fire .45 acp (WHAT a fun gun to shoot!), two S&W M1917's, two Colt WW1 vets and three WW2 vets, one Colt, one Ithaca, one Rem-Rand and maybe more that I've forgotten are here.
I'd trust any of them, most especially the MAK's, the CZ82, the Star B, or the Norinco 9mm, and the 1911's. I don't own any guns I'd call bad gun.
BUT.....I've bought some that just would not work consistently. The Makarovs are good, the remaining Star is sweet and also good, all of the CZ's work fine though now and then one of the CZ50's might hang up - usually a simple mag adjust will fix it right back. Some do need an occasional tweak but it's mostly because they're old. I've got a host of Colt 1903's that hang now and then too, big deal.
For the money and the C&R convenience they're all fun and, umm, they're guns too, eh?
Despite so many claims I don't think it's realistic to say that any semi-auto firearm is 100% reliable. Some seem to be 99% though, and none of those are milsurps. They're Glocks
edit: Sheesh! I left out my nightstand Sig 226 that's police surplus and a wonderful pistol to shoot - maybe not to carry unless I get to sidearm it and develop the waddle.
I'd trust any of them, most especially the MAK's, the CZ82, the Star B, or the Norinco 9mm, and the 1911's. I don't own any guns I'd call bad gun.
BUT.....I've bought some that just would not work consistently. The Makarovs are good, the remaining Star is sweet and also good, all of the CZ's work fine though now and then one of the CZ50's might hang up - usually a simple mag adjust will fix it right back. Some do need an occasional tweak but it's mostly because they're old. I've got a host of Colt 1903's that hang now and then too, big deal.
For the money and the C&R convenience they're all fun and, umm, they're guns too, eh?
Despite so many claims I don't think it's realistic to say that any semi-auto firearm is 100% reliable. Some seem to be 99% though, and none of those are milsurps. They're Glocks
edit: Sheesh! I left out my nightstand Sig 226 that's police surplus and a wonderful pistol to shoot - maybe not to carry unless I get to sidearm it and develop the waddle.
CoRoMo
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I would, but I haven't been looking in the right places nor have I come across any while looking for my wish list items.
I saw a rack full of Mosin rifles the other day for $89.95 and looked a couple over, but for now, I'm not in the market yet.
I saw a rack full of Mosin rifles the other day for $89.95 and looked a couple over, but for now, I'm not in the market yet.
Deanimator
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My first firearm was a Commission '88 cut down to short rifle length, probably for the Turkish Forestry Service.
I've since bought a lot of surplus rifles, from Lee-Enfields to Finnish Mosin-Nagants.
I've since bought a lot of surplus rifles, from Lee-Enfields to Finnish Mosin-Nagants.
db_tanker
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The nice thing about the PA-63 is that if you have a decent set of tools and a good eye for adjusting things, you can re-barrel it to 380 and have a VERY nice little pocket pistol.
I plan on refinishing the one I have, along with better wooden grips and give it to my wife for a carry pistol. Since putting a new barrel on it, I have also replaced all the springs with Wolff springs, including a lighter hammer spring (no Eastern Bloc primers to worry about now) and the pistol has an excellent DA trigger. It feeds flawlessly and shoots quite accurate with the old mil-spec sights.
I bought it for 150. Barrel was about 50 or so with shipping and the Wolff springs was less than 20. SO...with my amateur gunsmith skills I took 220 bucks and now have a nice Hungarian PPK.
I plan on refinishing the one I have, along with better wooden grips and give it to my wife for a carry pistol. Since putting a new barrel on it, I have also replaced all the springs with Wolff springs, including a lighter hammer spring (no Eastern Bloc primers to worry about now) and the pistol has an excellent DA trigger. It feeds flawlessly and shoots quite accurate with the old mil-spec sights.
I bought it for 150. Barrel was about 50 or so with shipping and the Wolff springs was less than 20. SO...with my amateur gunsmith skills I took 220 bucks and now have a nice Hungarian PPK.
Furncliff
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I have a Star model b with a fake nazi mark on it, made in 1943. It's a pleasing gun to hold, heavy and slender. This one is 9mm so ammo's no problem, surprisingly accurate. I like shooting it, but I can't call it reliable. If I found myself in the vicinity of a Mak, I would be tempted.
col_tapiocca
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why not? I can't have too many guns
I love my Swiss Army surplus P49 = SIG P210-2
and my Bundeswehr surplus P1.
The never issued P1 with holster cost me only approx. US$ 150
at a gun auction here in Switzerland.
The P210 cost a little more
I love my Swiss Army surplus P49 = SIG P210-2
and my Bundeswehr surplus P1.
The never issued P1 with holster cost me only approx. US$ 150
at a gun auction here in Switzerland.
The P210 cost a little more
krs
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Furncliff, order up a Wolff recoil spring, mag spring(s) and firing pin spring. Also give the mainspring a tweak for more tension on the hammer. You might just find that that Star will work a lot better.
While you're at it take a look at the extractor hook to see that it's got a good 90 degree turn inward and is sharp and clean between the hook and the breechface. If your breech is pitted or rough smooth and polish it up making sure not to take much steel or round any edges.
They're a pretty good pistol but most got here sorta' tired. Springs can change everything.
While you're at it take a look at the extractor hook to see that it's got a good 90 degree turn inward and is sharp and clean between the hook and the breechface. If your breech is pitted or rough smooth and polish it up making sure not to take much steel or round any edges.
They're a pretty good pistol but most got here sorta' tired. Springs can change everything.
WardenWolf
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I'd carry a Tokarev. A Nagant, no, except under very specific circumstances, such as needing a pistol I can attach to a lanyard to avoid losing it.
ThrottleJockey
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I used to have an FEG .32 and really liked it. Sort of wish I still had it.
CajunBass
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Sure I would. I had a Makarov. Traded it off, sort of wish I'd kept it, but it's too late now. I think I'll replace it with a CZ-82 in a few weeks. I've still got 9x18 Mak ammo, might as well use it for something. I'll use it as a carry gun for those times when I don't want to carry a Colt Commander.
I've got a Nagant revolver. I've never shot it, probably never will, but it's a well made piece that if I had ammo for, I wouldn't hesitate to use, if it was all I had.
There is just something cool about a "Commie gun."
I've got a Nagant revolver. I've never shot it, probably never will, but it's a well made piece that if I had ammo for, I wouldn't hesitate to use, if it was all I had.
There is just something cool about a "Commie gun."
oldFred
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I said "NO".
I was really getting interested in a Mosin Nagant rifle. The local range/store had a crate of them for $139 each. Looked nice enough. So I came home and researched a little. The first two boobtube videos I watched had both people having difficulty opening the bolts after firing. One guy was banging his bolt lever on the edge of the table.
To be honest I am in favor of new firearms. I just purchased a new 1911 handgun and I believe my next purchase will be purchasing a stripped lower and building my own HK 416 gas piston operated carbine (looks just like a Colt M4).
I was really getting interested in a Mosin Nagant rifle. The local range/store had a crate of them for $139 each. Looked nice enough. So I came home and researched a little. The first two boobtube videos I watched had both people having difficulty opening the bolts after firing. One guy was banging his bolt lever on the edge of the table.
To be honest I am in favor of new firearms. I just purchased a new 1911 handgun and I believe my next purchase will be purchasing a stripped lower and building my own HK 416 gas piston operated carbine (looks just like a Colt M4).
searcher451
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Have and do, and frequently, and will again, I'm sure. One of my favorite range partners is a Walther P5, an ex-German police gun. It has been a flawless performer, despite a loss of some blue on the high points from being carried in a funky holster. The rule of thumb about German police guns: Frequently carried, seldom fired.
I have a Brazilian Navy contract 1917 S&W .45 revolver. Nice blued finish, interesting crest on the frame...cost all of $125.00 more years ago then I care to admit.
Karl Hungus
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Wife's got a 9x18 Makarov that shoots great. I'm currently considering a refurb Sig 226. I know a guy who has one - he loves it.
browningguy
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I've got a CZ52 in 7.62x25, it's not ideal for a carry gun but it would certainly work.
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