SURPRISE Bush In Iraq

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Way to go, President Bush!

An observation:

I saw this story on NewsHour With Jim Lehrer. Bush was in a tent full of troops who appeared genuinely happy that he was there.

Immediately following was a segment on HC's visit to Afghanistan. Hillary was shown accompanied by sober-faced soldiers who were anything but enthusiastic in her presence.

The American military has not forgotten the Clintons' disdain for them.
 
Can anyone imagine Slick Willy spending Thanksgiving with troops he sent to Haiti or Kosovo?

Ha!

Only if "the troops" were a unit comprised of 18 to 25 year old dumpy, codependent brunettes who flashed their thongs at him and got down on their knees.............to welcome him.


hillbilly
 
Sounds like a gastronomic delight, followed by a colo-rectal nightmare... just look at the menu for the soldiers there! :D

From the Drudge Report (excerpted from http://www.drudgereport.com/flashbb.htm):
Menu was boiled shrimp with cocktail sauce, roast turkey and cranberry sauce, baked ham, prime rib of roast, glazed Cornish hen, sweet potatoes, buttered mash potatoes, savory bread dressing and corn bread dressing, turkey gravy, buttered corn on the cob, seasoned green beans; pumpkin, sweet potato, pecan, apple and cherry pie; assorted candies and nuts; assorted salads; assorted breads and rolls; sparkling grape wine; eggnog and assorted beverages. On the table were non-alcoholic malt brew and sparking grape juice.
My stomach is groaning in sympathy... :D
 
Did GWs visit to the troops in Iraq cost the taxpayers?

Yes -- and for this I'm glad to pay.



Did GWs motives for this include the next election?

Yes -- and I hope his calculations were accurate and he wins.



Is GW a master politician?

Certainly! What did you want him to be in his job -- a great chef? (This does NOT preclude his being a statesman).




The previous president aligned himself with the gays, feminists, multiculturalists, socialists and wackos of every stripe..

This president aligns himself with and supports the military who defend our freedoms and keep us safe.



The troops loved his visit to this war zone; Americans at home loved it -- and I say more power to him!




matis
 
I am 33 years old.

My earliest memory of a president is of Richard Nixon's resignation speech when I was four years old.

I am not kidding. My first ever memory of a president is Richard Nixon resigning. Just after his speech, a police car sped by our house with its lights on and the siren wailing and my dad joked, "There go the cops to get Nixon! Go look, he's in the back seat!"

And I ran to the window looking to see the President of the United States in the back of a patrol car with handcuffs on.

I am trying to remember the last time a President of the United States did something which really impressed me, which caused me to smile, which caused me to call a friend and ask if he had heard the news yet.

And I cannot think of a single moment in my entire life, ever, for which I can actually say I was truly proud of a particular president.

But damn.....Spending Thanksgiving with troops in a place where some combat is still going on? Putting himself at risk from a shoulder-launched missle attack?

Damn.............

Sa-lute, Mr. President.

hillbilly
 
To be fair - President Clinton did visit the US peacekeepers in Kosovo, around 11/23/1999, in the field. It was planned and pubished about 14 days in advance of the trip - he was attending some meetings in Europe too.

So President Bush visiting the troops on a major holiday is not extrondinary. Visiting the troops in a hot zone, using AF ONE, on a major holiday to show them he does care, is.

Yes, it is a photo op, but so is puking on the Japaneese Prime Minister.
 
In your face sadam, this was way cool. I am a vet myself and what Pres Bush did was just boost the morale of all the troops. He could have just sat at home and called (ala clinton) but he had the backbone to do the right thing. Pres Bush did good Ready Cav Sir.
 
Good to see that he visited the men and women. I have alot of fellow squadron mates there at Baghdad airport right now. I can just see the looks on their face. :D

The American military has not forgotten the Clintons' disdain for them.
No we havent. And we are still struggling to do more with less thanks to that guy. God help us if Hillary gets into the white house again.:cuss:
 
To be fair - President Clinton did visit the US peacekeepers in Kosovo, around 11/23/1999, in the field. It was planned and pubished about 14 days in advance of the trip - he was attending some meetings in Europe too.

Yes, I was just stopping by to mention this. When Slick dropped in the local temps were in the high 30's and he had, I believe a battalion worth of troops standing in formation on the tarmac awaiting his arrival. They waited for three hours. He showed up, used them for one of those "look presidential" photo backdrops and continued on to meet others. Predictably the combat troops had been stripped of all ammo.

I'm not the leader of the GWB fan club, but I did/probably will vote for him and think this trip showed that he has more class in the heel of his shoe than WJC or his troll of a wife.

To borrow from Chris Rock the surest way to get a black president is to have Hillary pick Carol Mosely Braun as her VP and then get elected. The way I prefer involves a Powell/Rice ticket, I can dream can't I? Rice, it's good for your Colin. :D
 
As with others; don't agree w/ all of Bush's policies, but give a BIG thumbs-up for going to Iraq.


At least GWB is dedicated and committed to his beliefs. :)
 
I strongly disagree.

Hillary is now in Afghanistan. She is demonstrating that she has always loved and respected our military. The Democrats are doing just fine.


AHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA...AHAHAHAHAHAHAH *SNORT* *GASP*....

i really hope that was in jest, if not someone seriously needs a reality check. that commie pinko bit:cuss: doesnt give a rats potute if they are in harms way or not, hers is a definate publicity stunt. at least gwb has some reason to be over, comander in chief and all. hitlerys presence isnt wanted, needed or appriciated me thinks, unless of course she plans on not returning...
 
In many respects, Bush is very much the politician that Clinton was, but portrays himself as the opposite.
That statement is so ridiculous, it's almost not worth a response (but I will). Read any one of the many books written about Clinton, and you'll see at least one common thread throughout: he planned, plotted, and schemed from the time he was about 14 years of age for currying favor with others, and generally those who could help him in his next election. Maybe it was President of his high school student body, maybe the same at college, and then his elective offices in Arkansas. Always taking notes, always keeping a book on his adversaries and friends. Anyone that may be in a position to influence his next election.

GWB? To say his political life has been rather short and lacking the "grand scheme" of Bill Clinton's is to overstate the obvious.
The biggest difference between the two is that Bush is more prone to taking risks. Clinton would never have gone into Afghanistan, much less Iraq. The political costs would have been too high. Bush certainly must have known the political costs of going into Iraq, but did so anyway.
This is one of the defining characteristics of Clinton and Bush. Clinton would never, never take a risk on anything where the outcome couldn't be assured. If he had an idea which study group research would show would not receive public support, it was finished. He wouldn't take a stand for anyhthing if he felt there was a single constituent that would be offended (of course a complete lack of core values and principles mad this somewhat easier to deal with), even if the country he was elected to serve and lead could have been made safer. Retaliate for any of the numerous terrorist attacks that occurred on his watch? I think not. Bill Clinton among his many other traits was a squid.

One of the reasons I find Bush to be such an effective leader, is that he's willing to make hard decisions and live with the consequences. He's stood firm against the U.N. where we've seen no other U.S.President do that for years. He's apologized for nothing, and on his recent trip to England went there and made his case for our presence in Iraq (U.S. security and the end of the threat posed by Saddam in the fight against terrorism), and left. Don't like it? Too bad. Leaders make tough and often unpopular decisions, and live with the consequences.

His trip to Iraq today was outstanding, and the idea that he did it for pure political gain is missing the point. While I wouldn't be surpised to seee it show up in election ads, I don't believe for a second that was the reason he went there. Read about him, or talk with people that know him, and there's a strong consensus: he's the real deal-a down to earth guy who grew up with a wealthy and famous father.

I think it was Winston Churchill who made the observation that politicians are always looking ahead to what's best for the next election, while a statesman is always looking to do what's best for the future of the country. For me, that description is as clear as any when the discussion is Clinton vs. Bush. geegee
 
Bigjake:

Ah gosh Jake, you are just predjudice against well meaning beautiful women.

The fact that she is in Afghanistan means that she is keeping her options open for a run in 2004. Such a hot woman on TV 24/7. Bet you love it!
 
Considering the missile strike against DHL last week, I have to give President Bush a big plus for what he did.

Big Jake, If I told you what I really thought of Hillary, I would be kicked off this board for use of foul language, but we may be stuck with her for awhile. She would not go to Afghanistan for the hell of it. I've noticed that in many of the "Hillary" photos she looks like someone pasted her into the photo. It is as if she just doesn't connect with those around her. Check out these photos:
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Of course, Matt Drudge may not be her biggest fan.
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Now, back to firearms...
 
I'm sure there are plenty of military officers over there that either read (as I did), or heard from others this well documented account. When she was First Lady, Hillary was so taken by how the young officers looked in their dress uniforms at White House functions that she had requested that more be available for serving. Not their country, but for serving drinks and food. Waiters! :fire: I'm not talking about service academy underclassmen, I'm talking about captains and majors.

How can you not respect leadership like that? :rolleyes: :barf: geegee
 
The hottest selling new political bumper sticker comes from New
York State:

"RUN HILLARY RUN"

Democrats put 'em on the rear bumper...:barf:

Republicans affixed them to the front bumper. :evil:

and another

Story told to me by a NY friend: A guy was stuck in a NY traffic jam.
After not moving for more than an hour, he waved a passing cop over to his car
and asked what the hold-up was. The cop replied "Hilary Clinton's motorcade
is up ahead. She just found out that her husband is having another affair
with one of his interns and that her campaign has run out of money. She's
flipped out and is sitting in the middle of the intersection threatening to set herself on fire. We're taking up a little collection for her". "Oh",
said the motorist, "how much have you collected so far?" The cop replied
"About 80 gallons".:evil:
 
I'm about a 40% pro_60% anti GWB fan, but the Pres' scores big time with me today. Hell, he brought my sister to tears. Not a big Bush fan either, she said, with her voice breaking, "I'm so very proud of President Bush."

This by itself will not guaranty my vote next year, but as a former serviceman, he has earned my respect and admiration.;)
 
It takes big stones to drive your Cadillac to the worst block in the worst neighborhood in a rotten town and park it on the street and dare them to steal the hubcaps.

Our CNC took the flying presence of the United States of America into that ghetto like Perry sailing into Tokyo Bay and flew our flag for the world to see. I think it's pretty impressive, and I think as reports from the troops come in we'll see they appreciated it as well. Irrespective of what voters think, the press thinks, or any political 'cost', it shows where his this President's priorities lie, and it is with our uniformed military services who stand in the breech in our country's time of need. Compare that to the previous administration who denigrated the same military and set it up to fall in situations where it did not receive the support and backing it needed to complete the objectives set.

I like GWB; I liked his father. I liked him as an owner of the Texas Rangers baseball club, and I thought he made us a good govenor. I've disagreed with some of his ideas, politics and philosophies, but hey, I'm an American and I can do that. Overall, I think he's done a pretty good job given what he walked into and what happened since.

Going to Baghdad shows the measure of this man and the quality of his character.

Regards,
Rabbit.
 
I think that President Bush flying in to visit our troops is a great thing.

Wait a minute...

Nope.

Instead, I should have said that is was a FANTASTIC gesture and a GREAT show of support for our Commander in Chief to be there. Word of his visit will travel fast among the troops.

Way to go, Mr. President!
 
I wonder how badly you had to screw up to be punished by being forced to do turkey day with the head democratic turkey. It might have been fun though to sit next to her and spike her tea with Ipekac...
 
Will this be used by the RNC for political advantage? Yes. Did GWB do it for political advantage? No. I may be naive but I don't think he thinks this way. I think GWB was just another politician when he ran and I voted for him cause I thought he was the better of the two. After 9-11, he changed, as did we all, and he became the leader we need. As a Viet Nam and Desert Storm veteran, I thought his trip was a great event. Gun related, LTG Sanchez seemed to have an empty shoulder hoslter at the podium from what I could see. Lastly, there's nothing better for regular folks than an Army Thanksgiving dinner, except maybe an Army Christmas dinner.
 
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