SVT-40 with 150 Gr Ammo

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I have a beautiful SVT-40 Sniper (with rails and scope notch). I put a Russian repro scope and mount on it which is a correct combination. Have had it for over 20 years but not shot it for fear of breaking it. Recently got a PSL and these need to be fed 150 grain rounds because the AK style will not take lots of standard 762X54 fodder. Any thoughts on using the lower Tula Ammo in my SVT. Thanks
 
The Tula X54r FMJ 150 gr loading is a loose approximation of standard Soviet "ball" ammunition minus the steel core, and comparable to other ComBloc nations standard 150ish grain loadings which used lead core projectiles. It should be absolutely appropriate for both your SVT 40 and your PSL.
 
My SVT40 is a pretty tough rifle. The Russians don't make junk. I have fed mine all the steel cased ammo that I have fed my Morin Nagant without any issues.

It is a bit of a beast to take apart for cleaning the first time you ever do it.
 
Relative to SVT maintenance ... below is what I refer to as the SVT Cartridge Trick:

I tumbled to that about 15 years ago while disassembling one of my SVTs. Apparently, it is an undocumented design feature. ;)[/QUOTE]

Sorry, could you expound on the trick in the picture? I am not tracking. Thanks. The SVT interests me greatly.
 
What you don't want to shoot in the PSL, or the SVT I would assume, is the "heavy ball". Usually has the yellow tip, but not always depending on what country it was made in. Any 150 grain ammo should be good to go, or be "standard fodder". "Usually" has the silver tip. Often referred to as "light ball", but as far as I now there is no "heavy ball" with 150 grain bullets. ?someone correct me if I'm wrong? The "heavy ball" is something like a 180 grain bullet, loaded hot, and intended for machine guns. If in doubt, just pull a bullet and weigh it.

Side note: It's really fun to shoot the heavy ball in the Mosin-Nagant carbines. Some of it will produce a big yellow fireball at the muzzle, on a bright sunny day.
 
... Sorry, could you expound on the trick in the picture? I am not tracking. ...
Sure.

The bolt cover is held tight against the rear of the receiver by a double-spring recoil spring assembly.

Disassembly requires that you grab the bolt cover and PULLLLLLL it forward to get separation between the rear of the bolt cover & the receiver. At that point, most people then insert a thumb where you see that point of that bullet in order to keep the spring compressed enough so that they can remove the bolt cover and then, after removing the bolt cover, carefully extend and remove the recoil spring assy ... and then attend to your sore thumb. ;)

Being able to PULLLL that bolt cover just enough to take control of that spring with the bullet can save your thumb beaucoup wear & tear.

And the cartridge is just the right length for the operation. In that pic, the bolt cover can be easily lifted off or replaced without worrying about spring assy compression or slippage. :)
 
... "Usually" has the silver tip. Often referred to as "light ball", but as far as I now there is no "heavy ball" with 150 grain bullets. ?someone correct me if I'm wrong? The "heavy ball" is something like a 180 grain bullet, loaded hot, and intended for machine guns. ...
IIRC, only the Czech light ball (known as Silver Tip) sports the silver paint. I only recall Bulgarian heavy ball being marked with yellow paint. I have a supply of it downstairs (as I do Czech light ball).

I am not aware that the heavy ball was either exclusively for machine guns or that it is loaded "hot". I have never experienced any heavy ball that impressed me as being noticeably hot.

I am pretty sure that my Bulgarian Yellow Tip was in the cases that displayed crude over-markings that the contents were medical supplies. :scrutiny: The story was that it was originally quickly re-marked so that it could go to either Cuba or, perhaps, Venezuela.

BTW, my Bulgarian heavy ball was packaged on strippers/chargers, so it was intended for rifles, not machine guns ... but that doesn't mean that none of the ComBloc countries used it for MGs only. :)
 
I can feel quite a difference in recoil, between the two. I have been impressed with heavy ball being noticeably hot. Our results may vary! I don't believe heavy ball was exclusively for machine guns, just intended for it, or use in both rifles and machine guns. You are correct, it is often found packaged in rifle stripper clips. As you know, machine gun ammo is often loaded with a heavier bullet to extend range. A story I have heard is that Russian machine gun crews often spent time stripping the ammo out of rifle stripper clips, and into belts or drums. However, I think we'd have to find a very old soldier from the Great Patriotic War to learn the truth. Regardless, I'd not shoot it in a SVT, and I know for a fact that it's not good for PSL's.
 
I remember fondly or perhaps not so much the Hungarian issue heavy ball. It came in two varieties, the older yellow tipped lead core and the newer yellow and silver tipped steel core boat tail. That was a very cool bullet, with a ridiculous ballistic coefficient. The older stuff seemed hotter, and produced horrific fireballs and recoil in an M44. The YST stuff seemed milder by comparison, and punched holes in steel and concrete targets very well.

There were also 2 Hungarian light ball loadings, one with a flat, obturating base. I dearly miss this one, it was the most accurate of any milsurp ammo I've ever fired. The other was a more standard silver tipped steel core. The older one, early 50s marked, came in a wooden crate on stripper clips. The crate was marked (rough translation) Nicaraguan public health department, individual cans retained original Hungarian markings and a UN catalog over stamp.
 
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Soviets/Warsaw Pact nations ALL used 7.62x54r, in Light ball, with a silver tip and a heavy ball with a Yellow tip.

The Chinese manufactured and boughtfrom other countrys and issued both heavy and light ball, but once the Communists consolidated power, by the late 50's they only manufactured Light ball.

The light ball, either silver tipped or uncolored, was used for light/medium machineguns and rifles

When the Maxim macheingun ( which ran much better using heavy bullets) was phased out of service in the 50's, and the PK/PKM adopted, tactics for medium /heavy machineguns changed as well, so the Yellow tipped , heavy ball was dropped from service use.
The dropping of the second type of round ment a color code was no longer needed and light ball was the single issued round and was no longer color coded.
Heavy ball was never hot loaded, its the extra bullet weight you feel in recoil, not a heavier load of powder.

Th only "Hot" 7.62x54r was for aircraft machinegun use only,and it was part of achieving a very high cyclic rate for air combat.

Alot of countrys used up their heavy ball by repacking it on stripper clips and issuing it as training ammo or for sale on our market.
Soldiers always use whats issued to them or what they have on hand.

the PSL will use both types with no damage, but the SVTs gas system gets bent and pounded, so its best not to use any but Light bullets in them.
 
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Well, before Im corrected, i should correct myself; Romainian manufactured PSL will shoot 180's and others just fine.

The ones assembled here in the US from imported parts on domestic receivers are suspect, as a great many couldnt take the pounding of even 150 grn. due to metallurgical variances, and ill fitting of basic parts.
 
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