Sword Canes in Mississippi
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Not to carry. They could be considered a concealed dagger.
Carl N. Brown
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In Tennessee, things like sword canes, brass knuckles, switchblades, black jacks may be owned as collectible curios or ornaments. Or may even be used in the home or place of business as a weapon of defense.
Caught in public (outside the home or place of business) with one, it becomes "going armed" with a "prohibited weapon". You can get a handgun carry permit to be legally armed for self defense with a handgun carried openly or concealed (concealed preferred)..
I suspect things are similar in a lot of Southern states.
Caught in public (outside the home or place of business) with one, it becomes "going armed" with a "prohibited weapon". You can get a handgun carry permit to be legally armed for self defense with a handgun carried openly or concealed (concealed preferred)..
I suspect things are similar in a lot of Southern states.
Is concern about bipeds or quadrupeds? For the former, a standard cane and some training may be your best option. If the latter, a sturdy walking stick may be useful. Here's an example that won't break the bank: https://smile.amazon.com/SE-WS632-6...704326&sprefix=waling+stick+60,aps,200&sr=8-3 I have one and it is reasonably stout and handy.
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Bipeds. I studied European longsword for a bit several years ago, studied some half staff and cane work too. Would prefer a walking stick, not a walking staff. Something... inconspicuous. Good length of hickory or oak, shaped head and rubber tip.
As long as you handle it in a completely benign manner, such as in hiking or walking.
An ambiguous motion in the presence of another person, combined with an inappropriate expression, could lead to difficulty.
I currently have a 58" oak stick with a shepherds crook from Brazos Walking Sticks.
I need it to get around--peripheral neuropathy of the feet. I also helps steady a camera.
It has obvious deterrent value,.
Be sure to smile.
Go to the local Rural King and pick a stout stock cane. https://www.ruralking.com/catalog/product/view/id/22472
Jim Watson
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Jim Bowie got stabbed with a cane sword on the Vidalia sand bar in 1827.
Wonder how far back the law goes.
Wonder how far back the law goes.
That's specific to brandishing a weapon not for self defense. It implies a sword cane is legal in MS.
True.
It says nothing about the legality of a sword cane.
A knife my be concealed an auto. One may be carried concealed under some other specified circumstances--in the home or business being among them.
Other than those, a knife may not be carried concealed upon one's person--which is what a person carrying a blade hidden in a cane would be doing.
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Carl,
Your info is out of date as of 2015 when all knife restrictions were done away with (save for ballistic knives). TN has NO knife restrictions on ownership or carry. Switchblades and sword canes, and any blade other than ballistic knives are fine to carry. I was part of the effort to get rid of the silly laws.
Sadly, no such relief on impact weapons was won.
Carl,
Your info is out of date as of 2015 when all knife restrictions were done away with (save for ballistic knives). TN has NO knife restrictions on ownership or carry. Switchblades and sword canes, and any blade other than ballistic knives are fine to carry. I was part of the effort to get rid of the silly laws.
Sadly, no such relief on impact weapons was won.
Carl N. Brown
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^ That's good to know.
Please don't put words in my mouth. I said the wording of the statue implies sword canes are legal. Now its been confirmed that sword canes are legal in MS. Turns out I was right.....
The "statue" cited defined criminal behavior with certain weapons.
Its scope does not adress the legality of weapons, nor can anyone reasonable infer anything about that from this section.
Oldschool shooter
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This is the cane I carry. Packs a wallop on either end. The wooden shaft is a cut down and stripped/stained MP Shore Patrol baton. Handle is a repro 1860 Army frame and cylinder. I can remove the pin securing it to the shaft, put the barrel and wedge back on and am back to using the pistol with no permanent damage.
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Speedo66
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Well, that'll strike fear into the soccer moms, "help, he's got a gun".
Oldschool shooter
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A few times it has, but more often than not people ask me if they can get a good look at it. The couple that have been snarky about it I simply explained to them that it wasn't a gun and I hoped for the sake of society thst they don't own one if they can't tell the difference.
Barry the Bear
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Don't know a lot about Mississippi law, I know in Texas I can carry a blade of any length (there are SOME stipulations) and I can now carry brass knuckles. I am seeking a fencing instructor to learn how to use a light sword to carry a cane sword and/or bowie as well
Unless one is a prohibited person, a concealed firearm would most likely be a much better bet in MS.
I suggest trying a few repetitions of the Tueller drill with an inert training gun. For most people, it's iffy.
Then try it with a training sword cane. See if you can draw the sword and wield it before it is too late.
Regarding blade defense in general--most people have no concept of how to use a blade properly and effectively in lawful self defense. It's not like screen fiction. I strongly suggest watching some videos by Michael Janich.
This should be worth the investment.
I would not consider carrying a knife for defense without greatly improving my knowledge base
I suggest trying a few repetitions of the Tueller drill with an inert training gun. For most people, it's iffy.
Then try it with a training sword cane. See if you can draw the sword and wield it before it is too late.
Regarding blade defense in general--most people have no concept of how to use a blade properly and effectively in lawful self defense. It's not like screen fiction. I strongly suggest watching some videos by Michael Janich.
This should be worth the investment.
I would not consider carrying a knife for defense without greatly improving my knowledge base
Sorry, I don't see anything confirming sword canes as legal in MS. I agree that the brandishing is not relevant to the question of ownership or carry and only to brandishing (but that becomes a debatable issue in self defense since we all want to avoid having to injure or kill someone and prefer to make sure they understand we will defend ourselves).
This section concerns me. https://law.justia.com/codes/missis...hapter-37/general-provisions/section-97-37-1/
(2) makes possession or carry legal on your own property, business, or vehicle.
Since a sword cane is certainly in the scabbard and wholly visible (4) appears to exempt from prosecution. I'd want to see case law on that for clarity.
I would not consider any of the above to be definitive to carrying a sword cane without a preponderance of case law clarifying it.
Thank Knife Rights for that. It wasn't an easy fight and took several legislative sessions (=lots of expensive trips) to free Texans from the idiotic laws against knife owners.
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