TC never advertised the Renegade as a Hawken but more as a plains rifle. They already had what they called a Hawken. I think that is the one people have a problem with. I mean, if you're gonna call a gun a Hawken, at least you can make it look like one. It would have been so easy to make a correct looking trigger guard, use steel hardware, and two underlugs. The only thing it had in common with a Hawken was it was a half stock percussion rifle. It's like calling a Ruger Old Army a Remington NMA. It ain't so and that's what bothers " purist ". When I first started in muzzleloading it was with a CVA two piece kit gun. What a piece of crap. The rifling in the barrel was so ruff it couldn't be cleaned and wouldn't shoot a group. Then TC came out with their Hawken. Man, thought I died and went to heaven. That was back in the 70's. A couple of years latter I browned the barrel, replaced the brass with iron and reshaped the fore-end. There should be no little flats along side the barrel. By reshaping the wood it allows a more rounded fore stock like a original should be without flat sides. Then a Bill Large barrel with non adjustable sights. Yes, it is a shame TC quit making hammer guns. Maybe the Hawken wasn't historically correct, but they and the Renegade did shoot good. And, CVA came a long ways. A pretty good gun now. It's like me when I shoot in a " Trade Gun Match " - flint, no rear sight, smoothbore. I don't shoot what everyone calls a Trade Gun [ 20ga] like the Hudson Bay Co sold back in the day, but as I call it, a New England Fowler - 12ga smoothbore flintlock with no rear sight. I call it by the right name, but it meets the requirements to shoot. Even though I make my own guns and try to keep them historically correct, I don't bad mouth production guns. Not everyone has the equipment or the help I had in the beginning to build guns. I like em all and the Renegade is a fine looking and shooting gun. I gave my granddaughter one. She can wait till I'm dead and gone to grab one of my homemade ones.