Talk me out of a Sig P232!

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Lonestar49 said:
On the PM, just before your hit the "submit button" scroll down until you see the empty box that reads, "send even if person is not on your buddy list" put a check mark in that empty box with a clk of the mouse, and then go back up and hit submit, and I will get your PM.. lol, that took me a few times to figure out..
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I must have a weird, different interface. All I can do is click on your username, and have the Send PM link; no checkboxes, no scrollbars, no submit button. It goes right to the error page. Is your inbox full? Really, if you can PM or email me I won't abuse the address.

someone in our paper was selling one nib for $350
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Thanks! I saw a used one on GB or GA for that price, too.

-- Sam
 
I got a 232 SL about 2 months ago and love it.

I agree with some of what has been said and disagree with others:

Stainless: I definitely prefer the stainless - the aluminum frame ones are lighter, but have an unpleasant recoil feel. Stainless ones shoot sweet.

Carry: I usually carry something bigger, but I do have some occasions where the 232 is the right thing to carry. People can put up side-by-side pictures and measurements all they want, but I find the 232 "carries smaller" than it actually is because the shape is conducive to carry. I have carried other guns about the same dimensions that were much more annoying/jutting/gouging to carry. The 232 just melts into you - which is the main reason I bought it.

Reliability: some folks have had reliability problems with various JHPs - and my experience agrees with this. However the gun has been 100% reliable with FMJ. With a marginal caliber, I think it makes more sense to carry FMJ anyhow. I know of other folks who have sent their 232s to SIG for polishing and tweaking and they were reliable after "the treatment." SIG has generally done this work for free. If you are buying just for a range fun gun, this shouldn't be a deal killer either way.

Ammo Cost: It doesn't make sense comparing any autopistol caliber to 9mm. Other than .22 LR, they are all more expensive than 9mm. In local gun stores, the price premium is exaggerated on oddball calibers. If you are willing to buy online in bulk, the difference is much less. Still more expensive than 9mm, but the difference is much less. I got a good deal on some Federal American Eagle .380 at natchezss.com - but there are plenty of other options out there.

Slide Bite: What slide bite? I have not had this problem at all. Hand size/shape may be the difference. I have long fingers but not chunky. If you have big meaty paws maybe this will be an issue for you, but it wasn't for me.
 
Pretty guns, but not a long term hold. It will either be relegated to the safe or sold. IMHO, of course...but based on personal experience...
 
Lonestar49I can't even reply to your PMs. I get the error: "Lonestar49 has chosen not to receive private messages or may not be allowed to receive private messages. Therefore you may not send your message to him/her."

This was my reply to your PM:
I don't know what's going on, but I don't have any option to send to non-buddies. (Nor do I have that option enabled in my profile.) I have an Additional Options box with "Read Request, Save Copy", etc, but no checkbox for buddies. I have added you to my buddy list, but that doesn't fix it. I just logged on using IE and that was no different. I'm hoping this reply goes through. [edit: It didn't]

I'm really just interested in the gun, but would take the ammo and mag, might consider one of the IWB clip ons (leather?), maybe the mag pouch. Let me know what you can do. I'm in western Oregon.
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Please send me an email if you would like to discuss this further. If you must, go ahead and send the info via PM, because apparently you can send them but not receive them. Thanks!

-- Sam
 
antsi said:
It doesn't make sense comparing any autopistol caliber to 9mm. Other than .22 LR, they are all more expensive than 9mm.
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Good point. Thanks!

However, when including shipping, I haven't found mail order to be that great a deal over what I can buy locally, in most cases. Maybe if I bought 1K+ rounds, but that presents its own problems.

I do reload, but only for .45 Colt, .44 mag, and .243 rifle at this time.

varoadking said:
It will either be relegated to the safe or sold.
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That pretty much sums up my experience with the Mak. The P232 may be pretty enough to offset the other issues (at least for a time).

And if I sell it some day? At least I got to own one for a while.

Maybe. :cool:

-- Sam
 
For a 380, it's a bit big & they kinda bite back when you shoot them :rolleyes: If you want a small Sig, look at the P239 SAS :cool:
 
You'll like the P232. It is a great gun and one every collection should have. Original grips are good, Hogue better yet and Nill makes the gun a work of art. The easiest gun to carry I have...light, slim, compact and holsters are available from many makers.
 
There was a new shooter at my IDPA match yesterday that was shooting a P232. I shot the gun after the match and I wasn't very impressed with it. The thing I hated most was the heel magazine release.

If you want a small carry gun to there's plenty of other, better guns out there.
 
The P230/P232 is the only Sig whose reliability can be questioned. Looks great, shoots great but it's also the only Sig I don't trust.
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Can't agree. I've had one for about four years and probably around 900 - 1,000 through it without one hiccup. I haven't heard many complaints about reliability. Go for it. It might have a little more kick than you expect from a .380, but is is fun to shoot and surprisingly accurate. Go for it!
 
I got to hold one today but not shoot it. I can see how the slide bite could happen, maybe too easily. Strangely, it felt like I could get a better, less-likely-to-bite grip with the stock plastic grips than with the Hogue that was on the SSS model.

Still looking...

-- Sam
 
I'm going to be the whipping boy of this thread, but . . .

. . . a Makarov PM is only a set of Novaks away from being a better gun that the SIG 230/232.

Durable, reliable, simple, accurate, less than half the price, equal in caliber (and can be rebarreled to .380), chrome bore.

The only thing I can think of better on the SIG is that it's probably a better pointer, and *maybe* the trigger.

I hope I was convincing enough for you. :p

jm
 
That's funny - I completely forgot about the Cimarron. I wonder why you see them on the road anymore?
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I've actually seen a couple on the road lately.

I'd be hard pressed to choose between the Sig 232 and the Walther PPK/s.
 
The 230 and 232 are works of art that go bang. Excellent lines, very attractive. Very. Feels good in the hand with slimmer grips (I find the factory grips feel kind of chunky and thick).

As for shooting them, you know the issues. Accurate, blowback, might bite, pricey to feed.

While they do come from good family lines, they are the attractive "problem child" of the family (in a way). But they do need good homes. ;)

I'd love to find a P-232 in .32acp
 
While they do come from good family lines, they are the attractive "problem child" of the family (in a way). But they do need good homes.
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Ah, the beautiful yet impetuous daughter, perhaps?

Maybe it's time to open Yosemite Sam's Home for Wayward Girls. :)

re: highrider - I forgot .308. :D

-- Sam
 
I always trash-talk the p232 and would be remiss if I let this post pass without commenting.

They are nice guns...and I don't like them. Nice-looking, reliable, and accurate.

To avoid slide bite, I take an unnaturally low grip that is uncomfortable. I don't like the trigger itself or the DA/SA transition. YMMV
 
I have a stainless 230 that I wanted for years. Now, after shooting it I can't wait to get rid of it!

Even though I love the looks of it I can't shoot it without it biting the he!! out of my hand! Love it but won't keep it.

If you have big hands it may also be an issue for you.
 
Sig P232: IMO a beautiful looking gun in a marginally effective chambering. Only two reasons NOT to buy it:

1. Its a .380

2. If you insist on .380, IMO the Beretta Cheetah is a more reliable option.

Having said this, it IS a fine pistol. If styling is the reason you want the P232, BUY IT!

That is why I bought my Cheetah (for looks), and I don't regret it at all. Its even turned out to be a great shooter (100 percent reliable so far with surprisingly great accuracy).
 
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