Talk me out of the Rossi Trifecta.

[mickeydim468]

I am looking at a Rossi USA package deal that comes with a single shot .22lr, .243 Win, and a 20ga shotty. This is an all in one rifle that transforms by doing a quick change of the rifle barrel to one of the other barrels. This takes about 30 seconds to accomplish if that long. Here is the link. http://rossiusa.com/products/matchedsets.cfm What do you guys think of this? Good for deer, birds, and little critters, don't cha think? I found one at my local shop for $249.00. I think I am going to get it.

Talk me out of it!

Mikey!

 

[Jubjub]

Well, the downsides are: you won't be able to go BAMBAMBAMBAMBAMBAM just to watch the dirt fly, no place to mount the laser and bayonet, and there will be little opportunity to use the word "tactical".

On the upside: plenty of money left for ammo, single shot shooters seem to hit their targets a lot, and one 4473, three guns!

 

[jpwilly]

Somebody has to buy those things...go for it!

 

[Kind of Blued]

Seems like a heck of a "survival gun" to me. I'd be interested to see how accurate the .243 barrel is. Buy it and give us a range report!

 

[bearmgc]

Yeah, yeah buy it and tell us if its any good.

 

[jbech123]

My buddy's kid has one. He'd messed with the 20 guage and 22, but knew little about rifle so I "helped" him. I could not get a 3 shot group under 3" at 50 yds. I screwed with the thing for a couple hours and that was the best I could do. Of the 7 bolt guns I own, my worst one consistently shoots .9" at 100 yards. I haven't shot a 3" group(even at 100 yds) in years. COuld have been a one gun anomoly, but I was not impressed.

 

[mickeydim468]

You guys sucked at talking me out of it.

I went and bought the thing. It is really cool. I mounted my Center Point 4-16x40 scope on the .243 barrel. I need to get another scope base as the .22lr barrel is drilled and tapped but only the .243 comes with a base. I got 2 boxes of Remington Core-Lokt 80gr ammo (The ballistics say it is supposed to be 3350fps! That aught to work!) and a couple of boxes of .22lr too. So this weekend, I will get out and do some target practice and get you a range report. I really like the way it "holds" meaning it is a pretty short LOP and I have pretty short arms so it fits nice. The center of gravity is up near me and the weight on my left arm is not too bad, which is good since I had rotator-cuff surgery to re-attach my arm after nearly having it ripped off a few years back. It weighs in at right around 6.5lbs and with the .243 barrel and scope it weighs in at about 8lbs. It is shorter than my Nylon 66 even with the 20ga or .243 barrel and it is 4 inches shorter still with the .22lr. To me, it looks like a tactical BB gun with the .243 bbl and scope mounted on it. It looks really cool.

Now if it shoots as good as it looks, I will be very happy!

The other great thing is that I have had trouble getting my wife interested in shooting and she really don't like to shoot. But now that she has something that will not only fit her but not spit hot rounds on her arm after being fired like my Nylon 66, I think she will be much happier. You see she is a south paw! This rifle will work well for either a righty or a lefty.

The other thing that will be good is my 14 year old son will have to take time between trigger pulls and this will slow him down so maybe he will concentrate on his shooting and hitting the target instead of all of the BANG< BANG< BANG stuff he usually does after the first 5 minutes.


Mikey!

 

[mickeydim468]

Well, I went out to the BLM land near my house and did some shooting yesterday afternoon with my wife. I started her out on the .22 after I sighted in the scope. I have a carnival style metal target set up specifically for .22 caliber rifles. I had her shoot at that and she didn't miss once at 25 yards. That kept her busy shooting for about 20 minutes. She was having a ball making the targets swing all over the place. Then I noticed she was getting a bit tired so I took over again and sighted in the .243. Then I gave it to her and had her give it a try. She liked it and said that it didn't kick as much as she was expecting and that was good too! She shot at 25 yards with it at paper and did pretty good too! Then I asked her if I could try the 20Ga. She said sure and so I found an old paint can that someone had used out there for target practice a while ago and set it up on a stump about 30 feet from where I was shooting from.

Here is where it gets interesting and funny! I have never ever shot a shotgun in my entire life... I am here showing my wife how to do it, and I want her to become familiar with the guns and to want to try to shoot it herself and use it for home defense, SHTF, etc... So, I hold the gun wrong and I get kicked like a frickin MULE! I can't let her know it hurt like hell, so I play it off. Then I shoot it again, this time at the can and hit it and it completely disappears. We saw traces leave the state, but this thing was no where to be found. Finally I asked her if she wanted to shoot it. She said no. I said come on honey, I want you to know what to expect if you ever need to shoot it. She finally said OK. So I showed her the right way to hold it, and got her in a proper stance, and let her shoot. When that thing went off, she turned and looked at me as if to say "You SOB, what the hell you trying to do KILL me?" I said, "shoot it again." She said "No I am done!" I said, "Shoot it again. Once isn't enough." She said, "yeah but that hurt." I said "I know it did... Shoot it again." So she shot it again. I said, "OK now that we have that out of the way, and you know the worst pain it can do to you, let me show you a better way to shoot it, that will be just as affective in an SHTF scenario." I put the stock beside my hip and held the gun with both hands and shot it. She watched. Afterwords, I gave it to her and had her try it. She did. That was all it took. She started shooting everything she could find. She loves her shotty! Now when I am away, I know she will still be safe, because she knows the proper way to handle the new guns. She still won't touch ny MilSurps but that's ok. She can still take care of herself.

By the way, I have to get some pics of the targets. I have not done that yet but I will just to show you how we did.

Mikey!

P.S. We found that paint can, or what's left of it, about 50 feet down range. I will have to take a picture of it too and post it. Most of it is missing!

 

[jester_s1]

So you handed your wife a hard kicking gun and tricked her into shooting it, then pushed her to keep shooting it? Way to build trust there fella, and kudos for showing her that shooting is painful instead of fun.

You don't start a recoil sensitive shooter out on anything harsh. The .22 barrel would have been the right choice. I can't tell you how many potential shooters have been ruined by someone trying to help them get over the pain of recoil. It just doesn't work that way, and you didn't do your wife any favors.

 

[mickeydim468]

You don't start a recoil sensitive shooter out on anything harsh.

I didn't start her there Jester! Didn't you read my post. She loves the gun! At the end of the session, she kept shooting and didn't want to leave. I bet you never guess which gun she was shooting? It was the shotty!
I couldn't stop her from shooting it! She loves the thing! What part of that didn't you understand there fella?

By the way, I never said she was recoil sensitive. I said she was reluctant to shoot the gun. It is louder than my 30-06. She is a big enough girl that can take a recoil and not have a problem with it.

The bottom Line:
I did what I knew my wife needed, and that was for me to egg her on. As well as encourage her to learn. I told her it kicked, but I didn't tell her I let it kick me hard because I was not holding it properly. I just showed her the proper way to hold it, and it still kicked her.

She has been my wife for long enough, to know, that I would not do anything to her, that would harm her, to a point of injury.

I can't tell you how many potential shooters have been ruined by someone trying to help them get over the pain of recoil. It just doesn't work that way, and you didn't do your wife any favors.

I had her shoot it twice! I believe she needed to feel it! I wanted her to see what the thing kicks like, so that she won't be surprised in a situation, that requires smart thinking, and not whencing from being kicked.

She told me she also wants her own hand gun next, and to sign up for a CCW permit class.

So, whatever method you choose, know your student! I have the same result as many others who have shown their wives and they loved it. My wife was raised with 4 brothers. She can kick all of their butts, without breaking a nail. If I was to treat her like a little foo foo girl, she would have thought I was crazy!

If I were taking out your sister, or your wife, or your mother, to teach them to shoot, my methods would not have been the same.

 

[pmeisel]

Sounds like a good purchase. But don't mention it at your next mall ninja anonymous meeting.....

 

[mickeydim468]

Here is a link to my range report. We did pretty good for off hand shooting yesterday. This was out on BLM land, so no benches and rests ETC... When we decide to go out to an actual range I will get a report up then too. I am sure the results will be better than these. It seemed that every time I took a shot, I would move just a bit unlike at a benchrest.

Anyway, here is the link!
http://picasaweb.google.com/mickeydim468/RossiUSAPictures#

Enjoy!

Mikey!

 

[jbkebert]

Nice job on the paint can. Overall for shooting offhand you didn't do all that bad. I have been considering on of these for my boys. I figure it would make a good christmas present for them. Let us know how it does off of a bench.

 

[matt9052]

At least you had target loads to shoot in the shotgun. If those hurt, put in some buckshot or slugs and see how they feel. Single shot shotguns are hard on shoulders.