.357MagTaurus
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Looking for opinions on the Taurus 92 AFS. How would you rate it on a scale of 1 to 10? Any specific pros or cons? Thanks to all for your input. 
Taurus 92AFS
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Tomcat47
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I would rate it at 9-1/2....
But I am Biased too! I love mine, it has proven to be a shooter of any and all types.....zero malfunctions!
Bought mine January 2011
Here are two threads from a year ago:
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=569005
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=570955
(make sure to go through second thread - there was an error I updated)
I thoroughly enjoy mine...it was first rail gun I have purchased. I have had many Taurus 9mm 92/99 along with Beretta counterparts. I Love them both and prefer the safety on the Taurus, but Beretta safety is fine, nothing wrong with it.
But I am Biased too! I love mine, it has proven to be a shooter of any and all types.....zero malfunctions!
Bought mine January 2011
Here are two threads from a year ago:
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=569005
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=570955
(make sure to go through second thread - there was an error I updated)
I thoroughly enjoy mine...it was first rail gun I have purchased. I have had many Taurus 9mm 92/99 along with Beretta counterparts. I Love them both and prefer the safety on the Taurus, but Beretta safety is fine, nothing wrong with it.
Hunterdad
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I have a mid 1980's model and love the crap out of it. Its been 100% reliable. It's probably one of if not the best gun Taurus makes.
The 92 is the best thing Taurus makes. I bought mine new in 1990, my first handgun. I stopped keeping track of rounds fired at about 5000 back in the late 90's and have had no issues. The frame mounted safety is far more ergonomically placed than the Berretta.
The_Armed_Therapist
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It's not 100% the same as the Beretta 92, BUT, many would say that small percentage that is a little different makes it better.
It's a lot more affordable, too! I saw one at a LGS in Michigan not too long ago for $300 used. Really wished I'd jumped on that one!
It's a lot more affordable, too! I saw one at a LGS in Michigan not too long ago for $300 used. Really wished I'd jumped on that one!
Ditchtiger
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A great gun, but I do keep a spare locking block on hand.
Mine breaks after 2 years of use, maybe 10,000 rds.
Mine breaks after 2 years of use, maybe 10,000 rds.
The-Reaver
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Love it. Have a B92 and the T92
I seem to shoot the T92 a lot more. 0 Malfunctions in 800 rounds. The B92 has had 2 in 500
It's all about fit & finish for Beretta owners. They think because theirs looks better it is better. Well, I'm about practicality and the slide safety sucks, I'll stick to frame.
I seem to shoot the T92 a lot more. 0 Malfunctions in 800 rounds. The B92 has had 2 in 500
It's all about fit & finish for Beretta owners. They think because theirs looks better it is better. Well, I'm about practicality and the slide safety sucks, I'll stick to frame.
I may be wrong but it was my understanding that Taurus bought the machinery from Beretta in order to produce the PT92.
I'm not sure if they still use that same machinery but I will say the PT92 that I owned back in the 80's was the shizzle.
I should have never sold it.
I'm not sure if they still use that same machinery but I will say the PT92 that I owned back in the 80's was the shizzle.
I should have never sold it.
Myles
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Bought mine in 1988 or 1989. 30,000+ rounds through it. At 15,000 the double action return spring broke. I sent the pistol to Taurus, they replaced all of the internal springs and returned it within about 2 weeks. The spring broke again at around 30,000 and I ordered a spring kit from Numrich and did it myself.
Never had an issue with the locking block, and I feed +P through it regularly. It's a workhorse and utterly reliable.
Never had an issue with the locking block, and I feed +P through it regularly. It's a workhorse and utterly reliable.
JR47
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Beretta recommends it's own guns have the locking block replaced every 5,000 rounds. The piece in the Taurus is the same, and will interchange with some minor fitting.
I have a PT92 that is a pre-decock model, that is on it's original locking block after 25K. I change recoil springs every 5K rounds, and examine the locking block every time that the pistol is cleaned.
It's a VERY RARE occurrence to have one fail under 1000 rounds, much less three. Then, too, those broken slides on the Berettas were also rare.
I have a PT92 that is a pre-decock model, that is on it's original locking block after 25K. I change recoil springs every 5K rounds, and examine the locking block every time that the pistol is cleaned.
It's a VERY RARE occurrence to have one fail under 1000 rounds, much less three. Then, too, those broken slides on the Berettas were also rare.
Tomcat47
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Remellez....
I hate to say this, but if you are referring to a Taurus PT92 .... selling it at a loss was a choice...not a result of problem! It had a lifetime warranty on it!
And if it broke 3 in less than 1000 rounds I would be surprised if they had not sent you a new pistol??
I hate to say this, but if you are referring to a Taurus PT92 .... selling it at a loss was a choice...not a result of problem! It had a lifetime warranty on it!
And if it broke 3 in less than 1000 rounds I would be surprised if they had not sent you a new pistol??
I have had the Taurus and the Beretta, I now only own the Taurus. It was slightly more accurate, and I prefer the safety location and function on the Taurus. The finish is not nearly as nice as the Beretta, but it is perfectly acceptable. Even most Taurus haters admit that the PT92 series is a good gun.
Tomcat47
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I really do not think anyone's thumbs are that long...
It is effectively an "unfriendly device" on a Beretta!
It is effectively an "unfriendly device" on a Beretta!
Beretta redesigned the locking block and it supposedly is much less likely to break. You can get a recent locking block and it fits the Taurus. I've heard that some failures can make the firearm very difficult to disassemble.... so I replaced mine.
I love the Taurus.
I love the Taurus.
Tomcat,
Add up the shipping down there 3 times and the fact I didn't trust it plus taking 3-6 weeks each time turnaround and I'd say it was a direct result of the problem! My "choice" was asking for a new gun the second and third times. That warranty is a joke....I have many different brands of handguns that are years older that have never needed a return for a defect.
I learned a long time ago that a smart man cuts his losses and moves on. That gun was a warranty sucking black hole. That Taurus was the biggest piece of ?!,"#** I've ever had the misfortune of owning. And it's the last time I'll buy their guns even if they warranty them for 3 lifetimes!!
Add up the shipping down there 3 times and the fact I didn't trust it plus taking 3-6 weeks each time turnaround and I'd say it was a direct result of the problem! My "choice" was asking for a new gun the second and third times. That warranty is a joke....I have many different brands of handguns that are years older that have never needed a return for a defect.
I learned a long time ago that a smart man cuts his losses and moves on. That gun was a warranty sucking black hole. That Taurus was the biggest piece of ?!,"#** I've ever had the misfortune of owning. And it's the last time I'll buy their guns even if they warranty them for 3 lifetimes!!
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I have like 15,000rds through my PT99. I had to sent the slide back to get the rear sight replaced. I also had a locking block failure a few thousand rounds ago. I bought the newer designed beretta locking block kit and replaced the block, the tiny pin, the little metal dowel thingy, and the recoil spring. It shoots like a champ once again! The barrel IS a little sloppy on it, but it seems to shoot reasonably straight out to like 15-20yrs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30KNrUH4n5o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30KNrUH4n5o
Nushif
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I love mine. 9.5 simply because it has some minor sharp edges.
Other than that, no failures, frame mounted safety, smooth SA trigger, C&L capability ... what's not to like?
Other than that, no failures, frame mounted safety, smooth SA trigger, C&L capability ... what's not to like?
Mine is a very reliable feeder and more accurate than my SIG and CZ. But, its been back to the shop for:
A broken rear sight
A broken locking block (didn't have to send to shop for this)
A cracked slide
Some unknown breakage, the results of which was a new barrel (I couldn't disassemble and they provided no information on what was broken)
The gun is a mid-80's vintage gun that wasn't shot that much (probably less than 5K rounds). Now that I have a new barrel, slide, and locking block, I almost have a whole new gun. I don't know that I can depend on it - so it'll probably just end up a range gun.
A broken rear sight
A broken locking block (didn't have to send to shop for this)
A cracked slide
Some unknown breakage, the results of which was a new barrel (I couldn't disassemble and they provided no information on what was broken)
The gun is a mid-80's vintage gun that wasn't shot that much (probably less than 5K rounds). Now that I have a new barrel, slide, and locking block, I almost have a whole new gun. I don't know that I can depend on it - so it'll probably just end up a range gun.
Tomcat47
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That one has had a few issues Prickett!...the slide being the issue of focus to me...
But that draws me to the conclusion I have always had regarding firearms, or any mechanical device for that matter.
If we are to depend on a mechanical device to save, or protect our lives, we must keep them in top notch shape as best to our abilities, and when that device is dependent on another manufactured product (ammo) we must buy quality items to help ensure our mechanical device operates as intended!
With all of that embedded in our minds, we come to the crossroads of reality and we must always have plan "B" for when we have bought the best in mechanical devices (firearm) and bought the best in essentials for it (ammo) and it fails One time when we need it most, due to elements beyond our control (these are endless) but reality, we must be ready to implement plan "B" when our devices fail.
I "trust" my firearms... I "depend" on my ability to implement it for its ability, with the knowledge it can fail!
But that draws me to the conclusion I have always had regarding firearms, or any mechanical device for that matter.
If we are to depend on a mechanical device to save, or protect our lives, we must keep them in top notch shape as best to our abilities, and when that device is dependent on another manufactured product (ammo) we must buy quality items to help ensure our mechanical device operates as intended!
With all of that embedded in our minds, we come to the crossroads of reality and we must always have plan "B" for when we have bought the best in mechanical devices (firearm) and bought the best in essentials for it (ammo) and it fails One time when we need it most, due to elements beyond our control (these are endless) but reality, we must be ready to implement plan "B" when our devices fail.
I "trust" my firearms... I "depend" on my ability to implement it for its ability, with the knowledge it can fail!
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