Taurus or Springfield 1911

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surjimmy

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I am looking to trade or sale my Taurus 2in 45LC. I want another 1911, thats dependable. I hear alot about SA's the higher end ones I know are great, but are the mil-specs and gov model's up to snuff? Are the Taurus 1911's any good? What would be the best buy and the better gun?
 
I have no experience with the Taurus, but my WWII model Springfield has been absolutely 100% reliable. Don't ask me why but I shoot it better than my Gold Cup, tiny sights and all.
 
I don't have a lot of experience with other 1911's, just a couple Springfields I have had for a while. The mil-spec shoots fine, but tends to choke on some ammo. Mostly catching the ejected casing in the action. The loaded 1911 I have shoots fine. If it gets dirty, it will not want to function very well. I have more accurate guns, but I think it is me and the sights, not the gun. The loaded was my first center fire handgun and I had to learn some lessons on maintenance and lubrication and handling. For a stainless, it is a little beat up.

Others might have opinions on other guns. I have never fired one of the higher end SA 1911's.
 
I'm not a Taurus fan -- the 2 I've purchased had many QC issues and with what you pay for a firearm & what they can be called onto to do, I wouldn't invest my money into another one.
So, that said, I'd go Springfield. The Mil Spec I had was a great piece & a good value to boot! ;)
 
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I just pick up the above SA1911 with a NM serial number all I have to say it was a flip between the SA and the Taurus 1911 after 20min: in the gun shop the SA won the flip.I paid 599.00 for the mil spec and they were asking 625.00 for the taurus.
I have fired up to 400 rounds threw it using some ball ammo but most are 200 grain SWC reloads no problems here.I upgraded the to a 23lb main spring new wolf 16lb slide spring and a wolf heavy duty firing pin spring.
The taurus I look at was one of the best ones I ever seen in a few gun shops here on the island tight as a drum.
 
I have also had excellent luck with my WWII model springfield 1911. I would recommend ditching the factory magazine for something more dependable.

I do like the Taurus for the price. Actually, I really like the Taurus for the price. My huge draw back to their company is the customer service, or apparant lack there-of.
 
Springfield or Taurus thats like comparing Apples and Rotten Apples.
Get the SA.
 
Ford, don't hold back tell me how you really feel. Just kidding thanks for all the input. Look forward to more.
 
I'm of the opinion that your first 1911 should be a basic one with no frills.

The Springfield GI and Mil-spec are good guns and inexpensive. After you've shot the snot out of your basic no frills 1911, then decide if you want a beavertail grip safety, adjustable trigger, fish scales for slide serrations, etc.

The only other no frills 1911s I know of are the Colt Series 70, Series 80, Old Rollmark (ORM) 1991, and New Rollmark (NRM) 1991.

If you decide the 1911 is the best thing since smokeless powder, buy a Colt XSE, Ed Brown, Les Baer, etc. The Colt XSE will run you around $900 and the other two $1,800 or more.

Personally, I own a stainless steel Colt NRM 1991 Government Model ($749 plus tax) and a Colt XSE Combat Commander ($949 plus tax). Both are outstanding.

Edit: Whoops. I missed the "another 1911" part.
 
I'm not an expert on 1911's. Didn't own one until about 3 months ago. I qualified as "expert" shooting whatever one was assigned to me in Reserve Units for about 20 years. (I'm certain that doesn't mean I'm a super shooter.) I've fired Kimbers, Caspians, S&W 1911's. My son has an SA MilSpec. It's a nice pistol, shoots well and I can't find anything wrong with it. I started looking for one at a "good" price a while back, since I didn't have a 1911 and figured I needed one, just because. About 3 months I came across a PT1911 at a price that made it attractive. The more I shoot it, the better I like it. I was pretty accurate after about 5 rounds adjusting to the sights. And my accuracy improves as I shoot it. Doesn't seem to be sensitive to ammo, mags or much of anything else.

If you are trying to decide between a MilSpec or Taurus, pick the one you like. From what I've seen, either will do a fine job. If you spend 3x the price of one of these will you get 3X the pistol. It may be better, but it won't be close to 3X better.
 
If you won't be doing any modifications, I recommend the Taurus. The custom features they made on the pistol is very well executed. If you want a no-frills pistol, I'll just save some more and buy a Colt.
 
Ahem,

Both are fine pistols from Brazil but I would go with the taurus. Just my opinion. Almost all of my springer experience is bad experience. That said I might buy a champion as a beater.
 
Didn't mean to mislead you guys. I now owen a Les Baer PII and have been shooting 1911's for going on 27 years. I'm looking for something that if I scratch it I won't cry. Something to carry in my truck and on my side while hunting.
 
Didn't mean to mislead you guys. I now owen a Les Baer PII and have been shooting 1911's for going on 27 years. I'm looking for something that if I scratch it I won't cry. Something to carry in my truck and on my side while hunting.

The Taurus PT1911 is an excellent gun for the money. Mine is a great shooter with very good 4lb trigger pull. But if all you want is a good truck gun (and possible hunting backup) take a look at the RIAs. Reports from the users is very positive and their customer service is great. Look for the RIA tactical, better sights and beavertail grip safety.
 
For What you get for the money the Taurus wins hands down. Ford said not to compare apples to rotten apples but he had the wrong one listed as the rotten apple.
 
Without going into great detail, I'll repeat what I've said before - I work in a rather large gunshop and I see (or ask about when coming back after my days off) what gets returned. Get the Springfield.
 
I liked the taurus but around here the prices are in the 625.00
The next issue was the warranty end I know a buddie of mine is in the 8 week and still no 1911.
springer warranty is excellent they pay the shipping both ways and for warranty work repairs around 2 weeks
 
I'd buy the Springfield for it's service reputation. I was reading a story on the 1911 forums about a guy who's 1911 flew out of his backpack on his motorcycle at 80+ miles an hour. They made it look/function brand new and mailed it back to him. I've heard nothing but good things about SA. I have a SA 1911 GI, and love it, eats everything you feed it and has been dead reliable. You can buy a GI for like $450 NIB if you shop around, milspecs seem to be around $75-$100 more, and add $50 to that if you want stainless.
 
I read the same story did you see them picture after hitting the roadway?
I think any other manufacturer would tell you find the closest trash can and drop it in.
 
First off, I own a Taurus 24/7 and love it, so I'm far from a Taurus basher. I've been toying with the idea of getting an inexpensive 1911 and I have it narrowed down to pretty much the Taurus and SA Mil-Spec.

The Taurus is STILL unavailable in stainless. I want a stainless, purely for aesthetic reasons. So -1 for Taurus, +1 for SA.

I am expecting any 1911 I buy to have problems. I know that probably won't happen, but I've seen too many horror stories about 1911s (at all price points) being jam-o-matics. I think one thing all gun owners could agree on when it comes to Taurus is lousy customer service. SA has a reputation for good service. -1 Taurus, +1 Springfield.

So there you go... my choice has very little to do with the gun itself. It has to do with not having a product on the market and a reputation for lousy service.
 
Sorry, but when a gun comes from the factory with a thumb safety so poorly fitted that it borders on non functional there's a problem. The Springfields, Rock Islands, and the Rock Island/STI Spartan collabrative are far better buys in a 1911.
 
Sorry, but when a gun comes from the factory with a thumb safety so poorly fitted that it borders on non functional there's a problem.

Can you be more specific about this? The thumb safety on mine seems move without excess effort and appears to stop the slide and trigger from moving. I use safeties but don't rely on them. If I were looking for a problem with the thumb safety, what should I be looking for?

What other problems should we be looking for?
 
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