Taurus PT92...Your Opinion on them

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I am a Beretta fan and my 92fs' have been just been great performers, couple that w/ my poor experience w/ Taurus in general...I wouldn't buy a pt92 nor would I recommend them
 
Brian,
Your posts show your extreme loyalty to Beretta and they also show how little you know. Have you ever owned a PT92? Easy yes or no question.
You write as often as you can how bad the PT92 "sucks" or is a "jammomatic" yet most everyone else says something different. I have yet to see someone write that the PT92 is a jammomatic, yet I see lots of people writing that Taurus improved on a decent gun.
Tell us specifics with your experience with the PT92?
Thanks.
 
To those who have had general poor experiences with Taurus, please keep in mind that the PT92/99 series guns are an entirely different animal from the rest of the Taurus line. While as already noted Taurus has, over the years, modified the basic Beretta design, when you get right down to the basics, these guns are Beretta designs. I've seen a bunch of these Taurus vs. Beretta threads and most of the people who cite bad experiences with Taurus end up admitting that their distaste comes from models other than the 92 series. Now, I can't fault anybody for having a lack of trust back tracing back to a bad experience with one model from this manufacturer. My Taurus handguns have generally served me well, so I keep on buying them (as long as they make something I like). I shot my PT99 (an adjustable sighted PT92 variant and my very first handgun) well in excess of 10,000 round and never had a problem. I traded it on something else that didn't satisfy me nearly as well and replaced it with a PT92 several years ago. Haven't shot this one nearly as much, but it is more of the same.

So, if you're going to bash Taurus, fine. It's a free country, but get a bit more specific and tell us if you have actually owned or shot the model we are talking about. It's so much more helpful to the OP that way. General "they're POS" posts don't help anyone. :rolleyes:
 
Taurus and Beretta

Well said, Southpaw. Since the Taurus PT92 is a Beretta design, it hardly seems worth listening to the jamomatic crowd.


-It is much easier to be critical than to be correct... Disraeli
 
My brother has a PT92AF stainless.

The only problem I have with it are the easily replaced plastic grip panels.

The internals of the gun are excellent. Worth every penny of the ~$340 price tag.
 
i wanted quality, accuracy, fit, finish, and relibility. so i got a beretta and passed the pot metal jammomatics
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I've had good luck with my "pot metal jamomatic".....still waiting for it to decompose in my hand while in use, and for a failure to feed after nearly 7000 rounds. I'm certain it will happen......during the next Martian invasion ! But then what do you expect ?.......it's just an "improved" Beretta at a lower price point. I keep kicking my self daily for having bought such a well-made, reliable and economical pistol. ;) YMMV.

- Regards
 
Brian,
Your posts show your extreme loyalty to Beretta and they also show how little you know. Have you ever owned a PT92? Easy yes or no question.
You write as often as you can how bad the PT92 "sucks" or is a "jammomatic" yet most everyone else says something different. I have yet to see someone write that the PT92 is a jammomatic, yet I see lots of people writing that Taurus improved on a decent gun.
Tell us specifics with your experience with the PT92?
Thanks.
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ive had 2 the pt92 and the compact they both were less than average in my book i thought i could save a buck buy the knockoff i did save but i wasnt very happy with either or... i kept the guns cleaned and lubed and used plenty of types of ammo... still jammed the compact was the best of the two and surprisingly more accurate... i could trust the compact like it was my beretta still a hiccup here and there but nothing compared to the fullsize bought them both nib... the only taurus' i buy now are their revolvers they have never jammed :neener:
 
------The copy won't even take Beretta Mags. That's reason enough to hate them.

Berettas won't even take Taurus mags... I suppose I should hate Italians.
 
------The copy won't even take Beretta Mags. That's reason enough to hate them.
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:rolleyes: If I had a dime for every time I see that statement, I'd retire and buy my own island somewhere. The reasons Beretta mags do not fit Taurus (and vice versa) is that these two design diverged before the mag release was relocated to it's current position. If you could turn up a really old Taurus, it would have a mag release at the bottom of the grip much the same as early Berettas did. These companies went about redesigns in different ways. These guns share a common ancestor, but I wouldn't characterize the Taurus as a copy or knockoff. Too many things have changed.
 
Brand new PT92

I went to my local gun shop and he has a new PT92 with a price tag of $458.00 STAINLESS! Comes with two mags, both hold 17. What a fantastic gun! I almost bought it right then, but I figured I better do some research first, AND tell the wife. Right now I have the same 9mm in the PT111 Mil Pro compact, and I love this gun! But this new 92 is HUGE and is so light by comparison to other large framed guns. I am not sure about the price, but I will have to think it over. I would also like to get one of those Kel-Tec Sub2000s, but he called his distributor and they said that any Kel-Tecs are not available...everything is on backorder. But he will sell me a new Sub2000 for $320...quite a bit less than those I have seen posted on here (If he can get one).

Any comments?

Cheers,
George
 
I have 3 of them. I bring one to the plinking range on post and let GI's use it to save them rental mney. The Post uses the PT92 also to rent to GI's they work and work and work.
 
DFW?:uhoh:

Okay, so now that I know his prices have gone up (box of ammo costs $3.00 more in just 6 months). I also asked about the Kel-Tec...he can't even get anything because they are all on backorder.

So, do I buy this "overpriced" Taurus 92SS for $458 or do I hold out for a "better" deal?:confused:

I didn't vote for Gov. Blow-me-bitch, oops, I mean Gov. Rod.:cuss:

I am a business owner, I will never vote for a tree-hugger.:fire:

Cheers,
George
 
When faced with a decision like this, I make sure I hit all the other shops within driving distance. Then I go to gunbroker.com and see what I'd have to pay to get a like pistol shipped to me. Here's what a cursory search of gunbroker turned up:

$412 + actual shipping (call it $25)= $437 www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=66891977

$403 + $25 shipping = $428 www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=66905614

$400 + $25 = $425 www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=66694906

Very few stainless PT92s out there online. OK, looks like getting one shipped to you will set you back about $430. But wait, there's more........you have to take into account the transfer fee the dealer will charge you on guns that you buy online and have shipped to a local FFL. Most will charge $25-30. So I say if this $460 gun you found is what you want, then buy it. You're not getting a bargain price, but you're also not really paying out of the nose either. Seems to me the price you found is pretty much middle of the road. BTW, there's a used PT92SS on gunbroker for $590. :what:
 
WOW! Very good advice! I have to convince my wife that buying a gun is NOT, I reapeat NOT, like buying a car...it will not lose value, and we will not have to "take a hit" on it when and if we ever sell it. Right now I only have one gun, but I am now getting into starting my collection. Nothing "rare" by any means, but definately something that goes bang when I pull the trigger.

Now I just have to find a good place to shoot all my toys, er, uh, weapons.

Cheers,
George
 
Got it...

Well, I bought that Taurus PT92SS from my local guy. He does business with me so it is only right I treat him in the same manner. He also has ONE Kel-Tec P 380...tiny and ultra-lightweight gun. I handled it...just not for me. But his price on that is $280-$290. He is not a "discount" shop by any means, but he is also not going to cheat you, and he has the gun that so many people want (I have no use for it personally).

I will show pics of my PT92SS when I get it Tuesday...stupid laws!

Cheers,
George
 
I wanted quality, accuracy, fit, finish, relibility and value so I passed on the Berettas and bought a Taurus.
 
YOU GOT THE STAINLESS PT-92 FOR $290??? Or the Kel-Tec was that price...?

Boomer, sorry to be so confusing. I bought the Taurus PT92SS for $500 OTD (stupid tax) and he has one Kel-Tec 380 for $290, standard stuff.

I think the BIG GUN is worth that, but I doubt something so small and "cheap" is.

It (the Kel-Tec) was still there as of yesterday, I will see if it is still there Tuesday.

Cheers,
George
 
I just picked up my brand spanking new PT-92 SS AFS from the dealer today. God I love this gun, and I haven't even had a chance to shoot it yet.
 
it is a copy look at the barrel and then look at the whole gun compared to a beretta with a frame safety
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The PT92 is not a knockoff, it's actually the Beretta 92 as it was originally designed back in the 1970's. Taurus manufactures them under license from Beretta.

Here is the original Beretta 92 circa 1975. This is the gun that Brazil selected for their Army back in the 70's and which both Beretta and later Taurus manufactured in Brazil in the same factory on the same equipment. Note the frame mounted safety and the mag release at the bottom of the grip.

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Eventually, both Taurus and Beretta independently decided to move the mag release behind the trigger. But they each did it slightly differently, as a result the mags are not interchangeable. Beretta also decided to move the safety to the slide in a future version (a terrible mistake IMHO). Taurus wisely left it in it's original location.

30 years ago the Taurus 92 and the Beretta 92 were the exact same gun except for a different name printed on the side. Today they are slightly different because they followed independent evolution paths after the late 1970's. And granted, Beretta probably puts a little more elbow grease into the final fitting and assembly.

My Dad has a stainless Taurus 92 and it has been 100% reliable for 15 years now. Never a single failure. It's the gun he keeps loaded in the nightstand in case something anything bump in the night. I personally don't like the design and can't stand either the Taurus or the Beretta version.
 
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