Taurus: your verdict on Taurus auto-loaders.

What is your view on Taurus auto-loaders?

  • Excellent: It has my full confidence.

    Votes: 114 25.7%

  • Good: Not quite there yet, but above average.

    Votes: 77 17.4%

  • Average: Nothing special at all.

    Votes: 116 26.2%

  • Below Average: They are substandard.

    Votes: 83 18.7%

  • Poor: Pathetic, and I will never rely on.

    Votes: 53 12.0%
  • Total voters
    443
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Excellent: It has my full confidence.
Good: Not quite there yet, but above average.
Average: Nothing special at all.

Being an avid Taurus fan and owning many of their firearms, I feel your top questions leave a void!

I trust and have confidence in my PT1911 as any other entry level 1911
I trust and have confidence in my PT92 as Well as My Beretta 92 counterparts!
I trust and have confidence in my 608 357 as well as my S&W 29
I trust and have confidence in my 85 UL and 905 as much as or more than my S&W 36

Reality is my PT1911 is not a Series 70 or a Wilson Combat Elite and there are similar comparisons to all mentioned I am sure.

So I can not say average, because I think "nothing special" is demeaning..
So I can not say Good, because in some they are there! proven reliable, and above average

And last but not least....Excellent....Although I trust them and believe them very reliable...Excellent is reserved for the likes of a series 70 or Wilson Combat, and maybe a Kimber

I like my Taurus firearms, but lets be practical.
 
They've got my full confidence.
Two PT111 Mil Pros
One PT709
Two PT-22s
One PT732

All of these are totally reliable and are carry guns of one sort or another.

There are thousands of Taurus owners who for years have relied on these to save their lives or those of others. The ones at the Taurus forum do rely on them. There are active military, active LEOs, civilians, and retired LEOs and military who own and continue to rely on Taurus pistols, and with good thought out reason, to protect them and their loved ones.

Mas Ayoob chronicles and Chuck Karwan, and many others who are credentialed been there and done that types who documented such happenings. As far back as the1980s. They even recommended Taurus for those on a budget who had to buy their own guns.

PT92s come to mind. It's a bread and butter cornerstone of Taurus for many decades know.

So yes. I will continue to rely on the guns.
 
Am I taking it that no one has anything better to do than start another general ineffective thread about Taurus overall?
 
One indicator of Taurus quality is the fact that not a single American law enforcement agency or military branch, unit, ect. issues or uses Taurus Autos.

S&W
Glock
Sig
Beretta
Kimber
Springfield
Ruger
Colt


Those are just some of the major manufactures (and I'm probably leaving some out) who's guns are or have been used in some capacity or issued to American Law Enforcement/military. The only time I've ever seen an armed "professional" in the U.S. using a Taurus was at the DMV on a security guard and it was a older revolver.

I'm not saying that I require military grade arms but it adds value to my purchase when I know the manufacture is a trusted one. The fact that no one, save a few third world countries use or issue Taurus handguns speaks volumes, IMO. For those that don't think that's a practical argument, I also can't think of a single competitor that uses Taurus either. Just my .02 cents.
 
Based on my stainless PT-145 Millennium Pro, they're excellent weapons. I would use caution in purchasing another one, only because many have reported problems with them.
 
just because the military doesn't use doesnt mean it aint worth owning...yes the stuff the military uses has to take a beating but i doubt we are going to be barring our civilian guns in sand/mud or walking through water with them submerged or whatever other test they perform on firearms...now if your needing a service weapon by all means spent the extra 2-300 bucks...but for a fun shooter or a carry gun save the extra 2-300 bucks...if glock wasnt used by the military then they wouldnt have any hype because ther fugly as hell,,,but still a great weapon
 
Tomcat47 said:
However a lot of the millenium and others are carried as back up weapons for LEO's

Just say'n......:)
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Do you have any idea which state approves Taurus as a back up for their officers? I'm not doubting you, I'm just curious. I do remember reading the same thing but that was on the Taurus website. However, Taurus also said that the judge was carried by actual Judges under their robes. That, as we all know, is clearly not true, at least in America.

Weregunner, what am I seeing in all those links? I did see mention of he Brazilian police and Special Forces using Taurus but I was talking about American law enforcement / military. Maybe I missed it, it's a lot to read. Perhaps you can just quote or summarize whatever it is the links were supposed to prove? I'll take your word for it :)

Thanks.
 
I have had extremely good results with Taurus for years both with revolvers and semi autos. Their 1911's have been flawless in every way in 45 and 9mm. Several of their other semi-autos have functioned with no problems. Can not say that for some other brands.
 
Contrary to prevailing ideas Taurus has some strong following as many have thus far voted Excellent.
 
I have never owned a Taurus semi auto so I won't comment on them. My one and only experience with Taurus was a M85 Ultra lite. I believe that's what it was. I know it was a 38 spl snubbie. I bought it brand new for the wife as her carry gun. I took her to the range. She shot the cylinder full of rounds and handed it back to me. Then I noticed that on 3 of the chambers the cylinder would not lock. I had the hammer back and it would still rotate. I took it back to the dealer I got it from. He sent it to Taurus. It was back in a timely manor. I then traded it in on a S&W M637. For those of you that are happy with your Taurus's I'm happy for you. I will never buy another one.
 
I voted excellent. I've had 2 Taurus autos, a PT99 some years ago that I traded 'cause I was bored with it (which I now regret) and a PT92 I recently aquired for a very good price, that the/a previous owner had installed adjustable sights on.

Both guns were/are shooters.
 
ritepath said:
I have a gen 3 pt145 that won't shoot 3 times without jamming...bad magazines I suppose since it's always a nosedive into the front of the mag. I bought a 24/7 mag with the same results. It now sits in my safe clean and pretty...I love the size and how well it shoots.

Anyone have any experience with the pt845? I'd get one of those if I could trade the 145...that is if it's more reliable.
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I have several hundred rounds through mine with no problems at all so far. Ammo includes ball and hollow points through two mags. I've also never had a problem with a PT25, 738, 44 and 608. I don't doubt the problems reported by others but I've had none. I do keep my guns extremely clean and lubricated and that might matter. I suppose luck doesn't hurt either. Of all the guns I've owned only a Sig 380 had to be replaced by the factory.
 
I shot a friends Taurus 1911 which he had just bought brand new. On my first shot, the extractor or ejector broke and it became a single shot. I handed it back to him. Sorry. Brand new gun. I realize all things can break but that was just lame.
 
TOMCAT.....
Kindly list the LEAs that have started using Taurus as per your claim. As far I know NONE. Probably not even in Brazil, but who knows.
 
I've had 2 Taurus pistols . One a Model 605 2'' snub .357 ,and a PT92 9mm. Both were excellent in every way. Can't say about other models.
 
It all comes to this......Taurus haters:banghead: ........Taurus lovers:D.
The only think I want to bring back to the table is: Do not comment on something you never touched it. Parroting is extra weight when it comes to sharing experiences. There are national makers with poor technology, finish and performance that don't face the criticism Taurus does it. To name just one: Charter revolvers. Put them side by side and do it yourself. But there will be always someone saying "oh man, I love that gun". I had two S&W's with the same problem. One was a 686 and the other is my 642. The screws would come lose after some range time. For the price I paid on the 686 this shouldn't happen. But it did. Am I going to say Smith's are just average guns because of that? Well, my Taurus 85 had more than 3,000 rounds and I did not have a single problem. That gun is still in the family. Thank God everybody here loves guns!
 
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When Taurus started makeing auto pistols their quality went down &has stayed hit or miss since! If that were not true, this thread would not be here. Or the many others that pop up! The CO. willnot get a good reputation back until the consistently is there. Also C.S. needs to be changed w /new head of dept. ! We can talk about it, but the truth is until Taurus decides to make good gun's again anyone that can read or hears that Taurus turns out any bad guns will stop and think! Am I getting a bad gun? Will I have to get it fixed? Will I have problems with C.S.? Will they fix my NIB gun? How many times will I have to send it back? Until then I rate Hi -Point a better Co. At least it go's bang when you pull the trigger! Just my opinion. :)
 
Just because this thread is here means nothing and that makes certain statements,blanket at that, irrelevant.

Where is the overriding proof? You said it then present it! I can go to these archives to prove the blanket statement is false. Also can go to TFL archives and Taurus Armed.net archives for that.

And you have what?
 
Oh,yes. I have sources from the shooting culture, Mas AYoob,Chuck Karwan, Stephen A.Camp (may he rest in peace), and many others in the know who would say things are the other way.

That's in the archives,too.
 
Even the poll says different.

If you did not have Taurus experience then how would you know? That also make any posts suspect.

Getting anecdotal evidence is irrelevant, so is second hand or other "data" like it is irrelevant.
 
If there is a guy here at this forum who claims to have had 7 bad Taurus(he never followed commons sense gun inpsection rules before hand that would have been used with commons sense) he is invalid.

He got taken to to task at Rimfire Central some time ago and continues to try and foist his lies on others of the "truth".
 
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