TCP Fatal Flaw

[Good Ol' Boy]

The fatal flaw on the TCP I owned was that after around 200rds it developed an issue where it would not fire.

On a freshly racked slide I'd pull the trigger all the way back as far as it would go, meanwhile you could see the hammer coming back, but it wouldn't drop. This was a random problem on a brand new gun. The only thing you could do is rack the slide again and cross your fingers.

At the time it was my second in a row Taurus that had issues firing, so like the first one I got rid of it and have just preferred to stay away from the brand.


Ironically, and to be fair and show lack of bias, my misses has a TCP as her sole SD gun. She bought it used from a LGS. I have personally put 100rds through it and she several hundred more all with not a hiccup. She and I both feel confident with her using that gun. In a pinch I wouldn't hesitate to grab it.

However, given my personal experiences I will not buy another Taurus.

 

[LiveLife]

At least you have a choice.

Even if I wanted to buy another Taurus, the decision was already made as Taurus pulled semi autos out of California.

So now I contemplate on M&P 9/40 Shield ... Yay ...

 

[C0untZer0]

I took my RM380 to the range today, the DAO trigger is not great, not as nice as the original Rohrbaugh R380, but its OK, and it does have second strike capability.

 

[CornCod]

20 years ago nobody talked about trigger resets, now it is a popular obsession and a misplaced one in my opinion.

 

[chicharrones]

I took my RM380 to the range today, the DAO trigger is not great, not as nice as the original Rohrbaugh R380, but its OK, and it does have second strike capability.

I like that gun. I have one myself. It is my first choice from my pocket carry selection.

 

[Lokichoki]

I had a rm380 it was had some how by my stepmom at a pawn for 180 crazy! U can get used to its trigger it stages at the end so u can find its brake I liked it's simplicity the mechanics are very simple and easy for a women to rack I brought it to the range Everytime because there would always be a lady there learning. Works better than a puppy

 

[WestKentucky]

It's pretty simple...back til it goes bang, then forward til your finger hits trigger guard, repeat. Saving 1/4 inch of travel in a finger is pointless. The TCP is a good pistol, and would be hard to screw up in a fight. The biggest problem i see is in a person training to be on the ragged edge of reliability with the shortest reset possible. That is asking for trouble no matter what pistol is in the hand.

 

[chicharrones]

I'm sure Taurus knows this issue . . . I will definitely take a look into modifying after talking with Taurus USA to get some info

If you contact Taurus, please report back. I'm interested to see if they have changed their stance on this issue.

 

[Float Pilot]

I bought a TCP a couple years ago. It had some problems and I sent it back. They basically sent me a new gun that they really smoothed up. I have fired 600 rounds through it and it has never had a problem. It likes Ficohi 90 grain HPs. as far as tight groups at 15 yards and hitting at point of aim.

 

[DeadEye9]

Training issue.

Trying to finesse the reset for rapid fire is more competition than self defense. Pull the trigger thru and adopt a complete release to prevent the problem. Shot placement is important and just firing bullets to slide lock as rapidly as possible may not be warranted. Depending on circumstances, you may have just disarmed yourself.

Smooth is fast, the school of thought that demands speed in presentation and delivery is often just trying to sort out social hierarchy by a contest of marginal importance focused on one narrow issue.

Aggree with this 100%. This is something that would be problematic for a race gun or Competition gun but the TCP is certainly NOT that. For a defensive gun I don't see most short stroking, if anything it will be the opposite. Many people in defensive situations, even trained police officers, have been known to keep jerking hard on the trigger even after emptying the weapon. It's just stress induced instinctive action. They also usually have a death grip on the weapon so light trigger pulls probably don't happen very often in these situations. I think this is again a result of overthinking an issue. One thing that did notice about the LCP that is seemingly dangerous though is the lack of a firing pin block. It's a single action hammer fired pistol so when your carrying it chambered the hammer is back albeit not exposed. If you drop the gun while Chambered since it lacks a firing pin block this leads me to believe it could easily fire. That doesn't seem safe to me but I'm not overly anxious to start throwing around a loaded pistol to test it.

 

[chicharrones]

One thing that did notice about the LCP that is seemingly dangerous though is the lack of a firing pin block. It's a single action hammer fired pistol so when your carrying it chambered the hammer is back albeit not exposed. If you drop the gun while Chambered since it lacks a firing pin block this leads me to believe it could easily fire.

Okay. The LCP, the TCP, and the KelTec all have only semi-cocked hammers. Also, they all have firing pin return springs. The semi-cocked hammers rest on what's called a hammer catch, hammer block, or sear depending on who makes the gun.

If there is any of those three to worry about being drop safe, it's the Taurus. The reason why is it has an abbreviated hammer catch tip which is the root of the problem with the hammer falling from the semi-cock position if the trigger is pulled from the false reset.

The LCP and the 2nd generation KelTec have the improved hammer catch, which improves the drop safe property of the gun(s) as well as eliminating the hammer falling from the false trigger reset.

Yet, if the hammer falls from the semi-cocked (half-cocked) position, it lacks the energy to fire a cartridge in most cases. So, the Taurus is still relatively drop safe, but if the hammer falls from semi-cocked when firing the gun, the gun requires a tap-rack drill on a likely good cartridge to reset the hammer to semi-cock.

 

[Lokichoki]

Deadeye9 look up Murphy's law if you find this issue a moot point just read about field reports of the civil war were they had rounds stacked up in the bore and they didn't know they were shooting. Crazy right?