Teddy's view on legal Imigration

[joneb]

Theodore Roosevelt's ideas on Immigrants and being an AMERICAN
in 1907.

"In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant
who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to
us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is
an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or
birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in
every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no
divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something
else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the
American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the
English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a
loyalty to the American people."

Theodore Roosevelt 1907

 

[Biker]

Verba.

Biker

 

[Husker1911]

Theodore Roosevelt has been swept under the rug by the left leaning, politically correct, gun fearing, elitist segment of American society. They're embarrased that they're unable to alter Mt. Rushmore to change TR into Bill Clinton's countenance. TR represents sooo many things counter and hateful to these people. This man hunted, with guns! He carved a memorable legacy for himself, as a red-blooded American man. He had a swagger, and attitude long since lost in most American public figures.

How much better would be American society if Theodore Roosevelt were still calling some shots?

 

[Jack Burton]

What Would Teddy Do...WWTD...now there's a bumper sticker!!

 

[Phetro]

How much better would be American society if Theodore Roosevelt were still calling some shots?

Approximately 1,548,324 percent better.

 

[CAnnoneer]

I wonder how many senators, globalists, and leftists T.R. would have executed for high treason...

 

[Zen21Tao]

I wonder how many senators, globalists, and leftists T.R. would have executed for high treason...

Not Enough...

 

[joneb]

To me, Theodore Roosevelt was the kind of person that helped to define what America is about. I am upset by the reference to illegals being called immigrants anyone makeing such a statement is a bigger moron than my self . People came to America to become Americans not to exploit it . I'm ashamed of our elected officials for putting money and politics before America.

 

[Korimyr the Rat]

I wonder how many senators, globalists, and leftists T.R. would have executed for high treason...

Not Enough...

Considering that he was one of the leaders of the Progressive movement and ran for President-- the second time-- as a Progressive, I sorely doubt that he'd be running around executing people for "high treason" or that he'd be nearly as sympathetic as y'all expect.

Just because modern "liberals" and "progressive" have managed to screw up everything Roosevelt fought for, doesn't mean he was anything but liberal and progressive himself.

Problem is, there just ain't noone left in America following his example.

 

[CAnnoneer]

Just because modern "liberals" and "progressive" have managed to screw up everything Roosevelt fought for, doesn't mean he was anything but liberal and progressive himself.

The terms clearly meant very different things in 1906 than they seem to do in 2006...

It is about as meaningful as lumping Cromwell, Lafayette, and Washington with Stalin, Hitler, and Mao under the terms "reformer" and "revolutionary".

 

[Art Eatman]

It was sometime in the 1920s that the Statists/Socialists/Progressives adopted the label "Liberal". Prior to that time, the word applied to the Classic Liberalism of the Founding Fathers.

Oversimplified, but close enough for government work...

Art

 

[Bigjake]

we need to clone him.....

 

[Korimyr the Rat]

It was sometime in the 1920s that the Statists/Socialists/Progressives adopted the label "Liberal". Prior to that time, the word applied to the Classic Liberalism of the Founding Fathers.

I take offense to your conflation of Progressivism with Socialism-- and with your insinuation that our first President Roosevelt was not a Progressive.

If you think he was a "Classic Liberal" or a "conservative", you should reexamine the labor and safety regulations that Mr. Roosevelt and his Republican Party were responsible for.

It was during the 1920s that the banners of liberalism and progressivism passed from Republican hands to Democratic-- due solely to the betrayal of Roosevelt's ideals by his chosen successor. It left an opportunity for Coolidge and the Democrats to take the lead on those issues.

This modern flavor of liberalism-- which is beginning to lose its liberal character altogether-- is still based in classical liberalism, and developed as a result of the efforts of Progressives like Roosevelt. They have forgotten that liberty and freedom are the results of strength, and that strength is the result of unity.

If you think President Roosevelt had anything in common with neoconservatives, you should look up some of his quotes-- particularly as regards "treason" and "dissent".

 

[NCP24]

Leftists need to be separated into 2 distinct groups.

A: Bleeding hearted morons full of good intentions and no practical means to implement them (other than massive .gov funding)

B. Socialists/Commies that are intent on implementing socialism here, or the downfall of the US period.

Good definition.

 

[Bigjake]

I thank you

 

[Bigjake]

If you think he was a "Classic Liberal" or a "conservative", you should reexamine the labor and safety regulations that Mr. Roosevelt and his Republican Party were responsible for.

It was during the 1920s that the banners of liberalism and progressivism passed from Republican hands to Democratic-- due solely to the betrayal of Roosevelt's ideals by his chosen successor. It left an opportunity for Coolidge and the Democrats to take the lead on those issues.

Could you possibly be any more vauge? Show me ONE trait Teddy Roosevelt had in common with the socialist (commie) scum we call liberals today.

This modern flavor of liberalism-- which is beginning to lose its liberal character altogether-- is still based in classical liberalism

Socialism has absolutly nothing to do with classical liberalism ala Jefferson

 

[Korimyr the Rat]

Could you possibly be any more vauge? Show me ONE trait Teddy Roosevelt had in common with the socialist (commie) scum we call liberals today.

First, I'd have to explain the difference between a "liberal"-- even a confused "American liberal"-- and a "socialist", which I suspect would be a lot like trying to teach a pig to sing, except that I wouldn't get an NEA grant for it.

Then I'd have to demonstrate how modern American liberalism derived from classical liberalism and the Progressive movement of the early 20th Century, and how much of modern American liberalism was a reaction to Socialism and an attempt to prevent Socialist revolution in the United States.

For now, since I am at work, I'll merely provide you with a few of his more telling quotes-- which place him well outside the attitudes of the party that takes credit for him, despite the fact that he abandoned it-- just as it abandoned his ideals-- shortly after his Presidency.

"We must treat each man on his worth and merits as a man. We must see that each is given a square deal, because he is entitled to no more and should receive no less."

"The welfare of each of us is dependent fundamentally upon the welfare of all of us."

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. "

"Much can be done by law towards putting women on a footing of complete and entire equal rights with man - including the right to vote, the right to hold and use property, and the right to enter any profession she desires on the same terms as the man."

"Women should have free access to every field of labor which they care to enter, and when their work is as valuable as that of a man it should be paid as highly." (He said this in 1913, by the way, before even Wyoming allowed women to vote.)

"There can be no greater issue than that of conservation in this country."

"The object of government is the welfare of the people."

"This country will not be a permanently good place for any of us to live in unless we make it a reasonably good place for all of us to live in."

"There is not a man of us who does not at times need a helping hand to be stretched out to him, and then shame upon him who will not stretch out the helping hand to his brother."

"This country has nothing to fear from the crooked man who fails. We put him in jail. It is the crooked man who succeeds who is a threat to this country."

Don't get me wrong; I am no great supporter of the Democrats. But to claim that President Roosevelt would have hanged "globalists" and "leftists" for "high treason" is to distort the character of the man and his political ideals.

Socialism has absolutly nothing to do with classical liberalism ala Jefferson

And ideologically, it also has nothing to do with modern liberalism either, except for an alliance of convenience. Promoting "the welfare state" has nothing to do with promoting the State's ownership of the means of production, and Marxist ideals have nothing to do with protecting civil rights.

You need to put the Kool-Aid down and step out of the Eighties; Communism and Socialism were failed social experiments and their pathetic remnants no longer qualify as international bogeymen. If you want to oppose Liberals, do so on their own merits-- or lack thereof-- instead of trying to compare them to ghosts.

 

[JesseJames]

Oh Almighty, I wish we had another Teddy!

Teddy was too big for any blasted political party.
He was in a class by himself.