'Teenager murdered in terrifying machinegun attack' - United Kingdom

[Cromlech]

The expensive part in the UK is the ammo, not the gun.

Well yeah, but it's not prohibitively expensive here. In fact, the main difficulty is obtaining it without a licence, rather than cost. I'm sure drug dealers have enough cash.

 

[Fosbery]

CaCrusin, what's this about handguns being banned in the 70's? I owned handguns long after then - until 1997 when New Labour banned them in fact.

 

[DoubleTapDrew]

Lucky for the victims they used a machine gun. Had they aimed instead of spray n pray there would have been more deaths and more people hit.

 

[44AMP]

Just another example

Of Unintended Consequences. Banning guns means having a gun, any gun is a crime. No worse crime for a machinegun than a pocket pistol. This is what it comes down to. If you are going to jail if you get caught, why not use the most effective (common opinion) gun you can get. A SMG!

Same thing as happened with convienence store clerks. When the penalty for killing the clerk was the same as for robbing the store (<20 years actually served), murders of the clerks during the robberies went way up. Why leave witnesses. Modern Camera equipment has gone a long way to neutralizing that, but it still happens.

Crimes involving the use of guns is reported to be rampant in England today, and legal self defense is generally prohibited. So streetpunks run wild.

Sad to see a great nation come to this. Here there is a strong "you made your bed..." sentiment, regarding the state of English society.

 

[Waitone]

A string of firecrackers can be mistaken for a machinegun by the uninitiated.

 

[swingset]

I'll bet after someone used a banned MG to kill people, they'll put MG's on "double secret probation" now.

 

[LAK]

This is the incident of which scant information was provided on a news link I found and posted in a related thread. The U.K. plantation managers have been consistantly downplaying certain aspects of "gun crime" since sweeping legislation in that province during the 1980s and 90s. This is just another example.

In '95 when I was leaving to return to the U.S. a couple of the local lads were arrested at the train station in a small town in North Wales with an UZI among other shooting irons. Really, these things had been readily available in the 1970s during my first residence in that part of the world to anyone that really wanted one and would go through the trouble to find them. As they still are, and always will be.

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