Teton County Id: Family Shocked, Outraged after Deputy Shoots Pet Dog in their Yard

[SilentArmy]

Under the texas "castle doctrine" would the homeowner have been justified in executing the deputy if he was without proper warrant? Something to think about... Too bad there is few citizens with the balls to follow his right and too bad Idaho has no such law.

 

[alucard0822]

No way, no how. More than likely the crucial detail to what happened is missing, there is no way the officer was in the right, but its hard to say exactly what happened. I would have brought/kept the dog in the house, asked for any official court order, if none, politely asked the officer to leave. If things actually are as they seem, I think the dog will be happy in front of a nice big fireplace in a nice big house.

The two most frightening and gut wrenching scenarios I can think of are "we are here for your dog" and "we are here for your guns".

 

[Big45]

Leo and the officer tied the dog to a pole when the deputy fired three shots. The dog then collapsed. Leo's son heard the gunshots and opened the front door.

I am not following. The day I help tie my dog up to be shot to death is the same day the person doing the shooting better be prepared to kill me as well. I'm getting choked up just thinking about it.

 

[TBeck]

Under the texas "castle doctrine" would the homeowner have been justified in executing the deputy if he was without proper warrant? Something to think about... Too bad there is few citizens with the balls to follow his right and too bad Idaho has no such law.

Yeah, because grand juries always understand when people murder law enforcement officers. The deputy was way out of line, but calling for his murder is even more out of line. You seriously need to get back on your meds.

 

[cassandrasdaddy]

who videoed it?

 

[Twud]

This whole story sounds fishy.
Why would a cop risk his livelyhood just for the thrill of killing a dog.
How did the animal miraculously survive 3 gun shots.
Why would Barboza bring the dog to the door when he knew the animal was to be killed.
Why did the cop not use his sidearm? A much better tool for the job.
Something isn't right here.

 

[bruss01]

Obviously, proper procedures were not followed.

My hunch is that the deputy in question felt he was short on time and rather than go thru all that legal hoopla thought he could save everyone a lot of time and trouble by just handling things in the most direct manner - as in, you either investigate, collect evidence, take statements, file papers, attend a court hearing, then go pick up the dog, take it to the vet and have it put down OR somebody calls and says "dog bit me", shoot dog, problem solved.

If that's true then he's not doing what the people who pay his salary, are paying him to do. That is "loose cannon" behavior, is it not? It is crucial that we maintain due process - you can't go around depriving people of their lawfully owned property without their day in court. That's just UnAmerican.

 

[TBeck]

I wonder if the deputy didn't use a .22 rifle to do the dirty deed? That would explain the animal surviving three close-range shots.

 

[ilbob]

Apparently the Deputy was Suspended when the Media and the Family's Lawyer got Involved.

Why is it that seems to be what it takes in these kind of cases?

I am outraged at what appears to be bad conduct on the part of the deputy, but calling for his murder seems to be out of line. I like my dog too, and I would be real ticked if someone killed her.

I wonder how long this thread stays open.

 

[Marlin 45 carbine]

if that deputy's actions are traced to the sheriff then sheriff is headed to court for lawsuit, the deputy maybe to jail if he was acting on his own, no departmental order. a lawsuit for sure anyway against the department. if one came to my door saying he was going to do that he's gonna have a fight, and not coming in the house without court order.

 

[El Tejon]

TBeck, a .22 rimfire would not produce those wound channels that you saw on the animal.

 

[Zedicus]

TBeck, a .22 rimfire would not produce those wound channels that you saw on the animal.

+1

Those look like something along the lines of a 7mm or larger

 

[Gunnerpalace]

"Under the texas "castle doctrine" would the homeowner have been justified in executing the deputy if he was without proper warrant"


NO! that is a perfect way (executing somebody) to get the needle, OK I have a theory just a crazy one off the top of my head but thought I would bounce it around:

Lets say the deputy has a kid, the dog bites the kid and fatherly instinct takes over, guy over over and in said state lets the dog have it and leaves, a bit out there but there are way to many holes in this tale.

 

[TBeck]

TBeck, a .22 rimfire would not produce those wound channels that you saw on the animal.

I hadn't viewed the pictures previously but now I see exactly what you mean. It's amazing the animal survived that long without medical attention. But if they don't get it some soon they will probably end up having to destroy it due to massive infection.

 

[Flyboy]

We had a recent report of an urban cop trying to shoot a snake out of a tree in an urban area and his stray round hitting somebody.

Suburban. Noble, OK, about thirty miles from here. The shooter and his supervisor were charged with manslaughter, I'm glad to say.

 

[Macx 45LC+P]

I have been following this story on a different board. I must say, some of the responses here are a bit shocking. I am new to THR though . ..

I am fairly firmly in the camp that says "complacent sacrifice of civil liberties, in the name of keeping one's head is a sure indicator of an unworthy head". I'd keep the dog inside, demand my rights, and repel any warrantless invasion (of the home, not the yard) even if it meant my head. I'd rather die a free and loyal Amercian than live as a slave to this travisty that governs us now.

 

[Noxx]

You know, I know I am probably stepping outside our "high road" creed in this response, I apologize.

My wife and I are dog people. Our oldest dog, is 9 years, I brought him home wrapped in my sweater when he was 7 weeks old. Both of them are pit mixes, to those who own them, you understand the bond that implies, to those who don't, you imagine a dangerous dog, and I can't help you.

regardless, both of our pups are like children to us. I am sure that I would, right or wrong legally, fire away to slide-lock at any armed person who showed up unbidden on my property with the intent to destroy my dogs, whom I look upon as my children.

This story just breaks my heart on both ends, the officer who would do such a thing, and the owner who would let him.

 

[XavierBreath]

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