Family Wants Answers After Pet Is Shot & Killed

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I call BS! thats the kind of dog who if told sternly to "go home"
he would....most dogs growl over food, all he was doing was eating ...not chasing...
(KDKA) PROSPECT There are many unanswered questions about the shooting of a Butler County family's dog.

The game commissioner who killed the dog says he was dangerous.

However, family members disagree and now they want action.

Buster was a four year old black lab.

He was shot and killed by a Pennsylvania Game Commission officer.

A man who says he had to do it to protect the public.

"He was murdered by the game commission, as far as I'm concerned," said Buster's owner Jeff Neely.

Neely means it and he's fighting mad.

So mad that he had flyers printed up saying his dog was murdered.

He placed them all over Prospect and now everyone is talking about Buster.

Prospect resident Carol Mineo said, "I think it's terrible. I can't imagine a lab attacking a moving deer."

That's the story being told however.

Game commission officers say they were called to the Butler County Fairgrounds after a complaint of two dogs eating off of a downed deer.

The dogs were reportedly being aggressive and growling.

Buster was one of the dogs.

As the game commission officer explained it to the Neely family in their front yard Monday night, he said he had to shoot and kill both dogs as a matter of public safety.

Yvonne Neely is devastated by this.

"I do not believe there was any reason at all for him to be shot," she said. "Buster was part of us. He lived inside. He slept with the kids at night. He was just part of us."

Fifteen year-old Dom says he lost his best friend and he's angry about it.

"Everybody loved him," said Dom. "He'd come here. People would come here and they'd all see him, pet him. They'd be fine. He wasn't mean to anybody. He was definitely part of the family."

KDKA Investigator Marty Griffin says there are a couple of things to remember in this case.

The game commission officer was not available for comment.

A spokesman in Harrisburg said the officer shot the animals with deep regret and that we would be telling a completely different story if Buster had attacked someone.

Also, there is a law, under what's called Title 34 that allows a citizen to kill a dog if they witness a deer being hunted down.

Regardless, the Game Commission says this was a law enforcement action taken in the interest of public safety.

http://kdka.com/topstories/local_story_256210140.html

New Details On Dog Shot & Killed By Game Officer

(KDKA) PROSPECT There's new information following a KDKA investigation into the shooting of a family pet by a Pennsylvania Game Commission officer.

The officer says he did it to protect public safety.

However, the family is calling it murder.

Buster was a four year old black lab shot by a game commission officer who described the dog as a threat to public safety.

To the surprise of many, game commission officers are not required to file a report when they shoot a family pet.

Also, while game commissioners can tranquilize dangerous wild animals, they're instructed to shoot domestic pets when necessary.

When Buster was shot and killed by the game commission officer, the officer had two choices.

He could try to catch the dog, which he says he couldn't, or kill him.

He could not tranquilize Buster.

"I asked the officer why he didn't tranquilize and not shoot," said Buster's owner Yvonne Neely. "His exact words were 'They do not tranquilize domestic animals, they shoot them'. They use tranquilizers on wild animals."

In fact the officer was following state law.

Agents are told to shoot domestic animals.

FDA restrictions don't allow them to tranquilize pets.

"Our permission to use them is restricted for certain dosages, specified for certain wildlife," said Jerry Feaser of the Pennsylvania Game Commission. "We do not have the authority to use them on domestic animals"

There's even more to the story.

Buster was shot on the Butler County Fairgrounds.

The game commission officer says he was called by frightened employees because two dogs were standing over a downed deer exhibiting aggressive behavior.

The officer killed them in the interest of public safety but the fact is there is no official report on the incident.

Jeff Neely found that out when he asked for one.

"I asked the game commission if they had a report," said Neely. "They don't have to file reports for shootings or anything like that. Why don't they?"

He's right, according to game commission policy there doesn't have to be a report.

"The only time it's required by law to file a written report on this type of incident is if the dog is immediately identifiable as a pet," said Feaser.

Now, members of the Neely family, as well as others in the Butler County Community of Prospect, are contacting state representatives.

They've also written a letter to the governor.

They want laws changed.

They want it to be made mandatory that game commission officers file incident reports and carry tranquilizer for domestic pets.
 
Why did the family let the dog loose in the first place, if they loved their dog so much????
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Seems folks think its a given right to let their dogs roam the neighborhood then moan and wail when misfortune befalls the animal.
 
Yeah, yeah, yeah......My dog is never wrong, never barks, never ****s in neighbors yards, never chases neighbors cats. Never, never never......Comes every time I call. Go to a park some time and listen to all the dimwits calling their precious Fido/s...... Walk thru a parking lot and listen to the lil darlins bark. Or when the owner is away from the house......
Blah Blah Blah......Adnauseum...:cuss:

Dogs are great....Owners suck!:neener:
 
The dogowners in this case are SOL. They can cry all they want but nothing will change and the game commission will continue business as usual.
I live in a very rural area and have 2 dogs that are never loose while unattended. They are well behaved and come to me when called. They are in the house, workshop, or kennel, or outside with me for thier own protection. I know of one animal contrl officer that would rather shoot a dog than talk to the owners and would rather euthanize a dog than return it to a home. As he has saids, "That way, I only have to deal with it once." Not the guy I want to pick up my best hunting dog!
I feel bad for the family's loss, but they share the responibility.
 
Most all country dogs have drug home a deer leg bone from time to time. My golden retriever used to love to roll in dead, spawned salmon carcasses by the river bank. My neighbor's dogs somehow got into a buzzard carcass on the farm last week (gross!) That's instinct.

Key question, according to the law:

...Title 34 that allows a citizen to kill a dog if they witness a deer being hunted down.

Big difference between witnessing a deer being hunted down, and dogs picking on a carcass. This game officer was sadistic, and wrong.
 
The only change to the game laws I'd like to see is that game officers be able to treat poachers as they can dogs.

Keep your dogs secure if you want to keep them.
 
thats why i keep mine in fence

my lab husky mix and border collie lab mix pull down deer. the smaller dog is only 35 pounds
 
Some of you people are sick, plain and simple.

There's no reason to shoot the ****ing dog. Period. Public safety my ass.
 
Most labs I have ever met have been happy friendly dogs. Not so with my neighbor's dog, which used to regularly come onto our property and attack our small backup dog. And I do mean attack, not play. My idiot neighbor could not understand why this made me unhappy. Every time I had to talk to him about this, he would get all wound up and tell me we just must have been raised differently. I agreed, and told him I was raised to respect others and their property.

A person's dog may be a wonderful loving pet, but that does not mean that it will treat others outside its own "pack" the same way. Here in PA dogs are required to be contained on their own property. We went to the trouble of putting in a fairly expensive invisible fencing system so that ours could run loose and still be contained. Our neighbor, who seems to have a bottomless pit of money for everything he wants can't even seem to spring for a line. When his dog gets out, he is always tied to a post in the ground, and I think that is part of the problem with the dog being aggressive. He has no way to burn off the energy he has.

I feel bad for these people and the loss of their dog. But, dogs are like small children. They need to be contained or restrained, or bad things are going to happen to them.
 
Anyone who lets there dogs run loose gets what they deserve. According to the Center for Disease Prevention In Atlanta, Labs do a lot of bitting on people, especially small children.:cuss:

When "pets" run loose and "pack up" the revert to their natural instincts pretty dam quick.:fire:
 
I feel bad for these people and the loss of their dog. But, dogs are like small children. They need to be contained or restrained, or bad things are going to happen to them.
There's no evidence this dog was in immediate danger of harming anyone. It's like saying "some people will drink and drive, so if I see you with car keys I'm going to blast you rather than take the chance".

Jack, if you care to actually pay attention to the CDC stats, you'll realize you're more likely to drown or die from falling off a ladder than be maimed by a dog.

Sure, the owner bears plenty of blame here, but I still see no reason to shoot the dog. Clearly the trigger happy ranger wannabe overreacted and shoot because he knew he could get away with it, not because he had to.
 
If you love your dogs keep them in your yard. I have two labs, they weigh 85 pounds each both are big babies but a stranger would not know that. We are having a fence installed around our new home just to keep the dogs in. THe fence will cost over $4000.00. That is a lot of guns and ammo that I am giving up. But I love my dogs and it is my responsibility to keep them safe.
 
Yes it is. But when people fall down on their responsibilities, it doesn't excuse depraved behavior on the part of others.
 
Sure, the owner bears plenty of blame here, but I still see no reason to shoot the dog. Clearly the trigger happy ranger wannabe overreacted and shoot because he knew he could get away with it, not because he had to.

I wasn't making a judgment one way or the other on the shooting of the dog. I merely wrote that bad things will happen. Dogs running loose get hit by cars, into fights with other animals, shot by game wardens, etc. Those are all bad things for the dog involved and the family of that dog if they really care about it. So, it does not change my statement that dogs need to be contained or restrained or bad things will happen.

And you know what? I think the owners bear all of the blame. No one here was there, and the reporter who slants...uhhh, I mean writes this stuff certainly wasn't there. We don't know what the real situation was, but I can tell you this. If it were me, I would rather shoot someone's dog than run the risk of being bitten. I write that as someone who has been bitten several times in my life.
 
That article is written like a fifth grader's essay. I've never seen such awful use of spacing, breaks and simplified language in a published paper. :scrutiny:

Are PA news media sources that desparate for writers?
 
what the hell is wrong with you people? any dog can sneak out, i dont care how secure your yard is. should every dog that jumps a fence be killed for it?

game warden was way out of line. the dog showed no aggression. all the warden had to do was wave a milkbone and call the dog over. the collar would tell him how to take the dog home.
 
I chased a dog out of my front yard the other day- It was getting ready to attack my two 8 week old pups that I have invested over $1500.00 in. Not to mention they are my wifes "kids"

My dogs wouldn't have had a chance, as they were on chains that kept them in the yard, and the other dog was 4 times thier size.

I love dogs. Always have, always will.

BUT KEEP YOUR D$#% DOG ON A LEASH OR IN YOUR YARD!!! I DON'T WANT THEM IN MINE!!

Your dog is YOUR responsibility. Take it SERIOUSLY!
 
Little sparky would never bite anyone ossifer!

I'm getting a pair of great pyrenees and they will be fenced. If they wander off and get shot b/c someone feels threatened by them so be it.

It is my responsibility to keep my potentially dangerous livestock under control, not the responsibility of the public to determine whether they are a threat or not.
 
I'm getting a pair of great pyrenees and they will be fenced. If they wander off and get shot b/c someone feels threatened by them so be it.

I only understand people who get a dog and treat it as a family member. I don't understand people who get a dog and treat it like a piece of yard equipment.
 
game warden was way out of line. the dog showed no aggression. all the warden had to do was wave a milkbone and call the dog over. the collar would tell him how to take the dog home.

Go back and read the article again. It says what it says. The game warden said the dog was being aggressive. Was he right? I don't know. Neither do you. The biggest opinions offered are the idiot woman quoted as saying she can't imagine it happening, and the family who says "not our dog!" Of course, I don't even know why I am writing over and over at this point with "you people" to use your term. :banghead:

Oh yeah. I don't know about you, but my experience says dogs are going to go for meat over milkbones any day of the week.
 
I am not saying any dog outside their fence should be shot but a dog can do a lot of damage in a very short amount of time. Just playing tug-of-war with my labs amazes me with there strength.
 
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