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Texas Petition - Open Carry

Discussion in 'Activism' started by mbt2001, Mar 28, 2008.

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  1. mbt2001

    mbt2001 Member

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    I came across this petition and thought I might post it in case some of you folks haven't signed it... I do wonder if we shouldn't take the text of this petition and each of us mail them to our elected representatives in Texas.

    In any event, I am printing and mailing this to my reps... I hope that all of you do the same, and might as well sign this petition too.

    http://www.petitiononline.com/texasoc/petition.html

     
  2. Quoheleth

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    I'm just checking...this would seek to do away with needing handgun permits (i.e. anyone, even without a permit, can carry)? Or just with "Concealed" carry permits?
     
  3. mbt2001

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    My understanding is open carry without a permit, as permited in other states.

    I would be for a "rider" to your CHL, that allowed for open carry, but if you shoot for the moon, you're bound to get off the ground. So we take the "unrestriced" approach and are bound to get something.
     
  4. TexasRifleman

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    Well since no legislator has actually submitted a bill yet it could be either way.

    Until someone proposes a bill on this we'll not know.

    Where are the Ron Paul people? Has he submitted a bill to start this?

    Not that he can do it now since the lazy ass Texas Legislature only meets every other year....... :evil:
     
  5. Mainsail

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    OK, why do you need a law that allows open carry? What law forbids it? Everyone says it's illegal but has anyone challenged the open carry laws in the courts?
     
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    Texas Penal Code 46.02

    unless

    Pretty clear but no one has challenged it that I know of.

    That statute covers both open and concealed carry. The concealed permit portion gives an exception of course.
     
  7. Mainsail

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    Thanks TR, I had always heard it was illegal but never saw the law. The two would seem to be in direct contradiction with each other; that law and the Texas Constitution. I think challenging that law in the courts would be a better route to open carry than trying to get a bunch of politicians to act on it. Even if they do, they’ll just screw it all up and you will only be allowed to OC in so few places it won’t be worth it.
     
  8. TexasRifleman

    TexasRifleman Moderator Emeritus

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    Every time it's come up as being against the Texas Constituiton we're shown:

    Well, OK that pretty much kills it from that angle, or has in the past.

    It's not something I think we're going to win in the courtroom, this is going to take Legislation to legalize open carry, plain and simple.
     
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    I’ll agree that the phrase, “…with a view to prevent crime” is somewhat ambiguous, but I don’t see how a bar on open carry can prevent crime. Besides, prohibiting open carry doesn’t seem to be a method of ‘regulating’ the wearing of arms. I’m not arguing with you, after all, you live there, so I’ll defer to your knowledge of the subject. Nevertheless, I don’t think the law would be able to stand up in the state supreme court.
     
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    Umm, Ron Paul is a member of the U.S. House of Representatives, not the Texas House of Representatives...
     
  11. TexasRifleman

    TexasRifleman Moderator Emeritus

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    Oh I don't agree with it at all, that's just been the argument made against it when it's come up.



    Oh lol, yeah you're right. I forgot hah hah

    Well he should get his buddies to do it ;)
     
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    Might try Debbie Riddell, down here in Houston. She's pretty good on RKBA, although I don't know that she'll carry the ball on this. But it's worth a try.

    Keep in mind that the legislature will convene in 2009, and anything we want on that docket needs working on NOW. Make it an issue with your local representatives, write the candidates of both parties and get their views. If we wait until January '09, the legislative agenda will have been set and it will be too late.

    Springmom
     
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    If all the Texans on this board sent in the above with a reference to the link, and then we all pushed our like minded friends and family and got the Texas Rifle Association on board and the NRA, we would be able to affect the change.
     
  14. TexasSkyhawk

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    I'll do you even one better--

    IF all the Texans, period, who own guns were members of the TSRA and NRA, we'd get whatever we want, whenever we want.

    Even BETTER--

    IF all of the Texans, period, who own guns became members of the TSRA. . . AND the TSRA decided to make Texas the #1 Pro Gun State in the entire country, we could identify each and every anti-gun representative, senator, county commissioner, justice of the peace, constable, sheriff and judge in thi state and REPLACE them with TSRA members.

    That is entirely in the realm of easily possible. . . BUT ONLY if all Texans who own guns join the Texas State Rifle Association and make that push.

    Hell, I'd come out of retirement from my advertising and marketing agency days to help TSRA pull this off--what's more, I'd DONATE my time and efforts to TSRA to help pull this off.

    I'd love to see all our hanky-waving liberals run screaming back up north or to ********** where they all came from. Wouldn't mind replacing them with good conservative gun-loving yankees.

    After all, to paraphrase John Steinbeck, "Texas is a state of mind and Texas IS its own nation."

    Jeff
     
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    More Publicity

    Go take a look at www.neaju.com. They're not a blog or forum, but a citizen jounalism site. The only one with NO editorial control....what you publish the put up exactly as you wrote it. It just has to be factual news, not opinion.

    They have something called a News Channel where, for example you could have a 2nd Amendment Channel. Everyone could read the articles on it but the person who set up the Channel controls who can POST to it.

    You could even do an article on THR which they could link to there Press section. Or any other group or organization.

    I'm big into the first AND second amendments and since the "mainstream press" isn't helping us, a CJ site like Neaju could: especially since they're the only ones with no editorial control and they post everything published (except pornography, blatent advertising and stuff like that.) Go to www.neaju.com and click on "What is Neaju" on the blue banner.

    Every bit of ACCURATE NEWS on gun rights counts!
     
  16. loadingzone

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    on Carry Laws....

    I'm a Texan and I have a CHL. With the new "Castle Doctrine", our gun rights are even better. I'd like open carry and signed the above...and posted their address on DIGG.....and blogged it. It's common sense.

    What I don't get, is it Arizona, that lets everyone carry open, but if you want to carry concealed, then you need to get a permit? What's the logic behind that?
     
  17. nalioth

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    If you do this, I suggest you write your own letter (you can use the above content) on paper and send it to your representative.

    Politicians equate online petitions to spam. "No thought behind it, John Smith just had to click "Send"" and "Those folks can hit "Send" as many times as they want to." Almost none of them take them seriously.
     
  18. loadingzone

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    Good thought......

    I have an ongoing email relationship with my Representative. I will right him. Thanks......and he reads my blog too.
     
  19. btucker1947

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    open holster carry legal, yea

    Yea MBT , I signed it. There is no reason not to have an open carry in Texas.

    I got a CCW in (upstate) New York in 1975; before I came to Texas. I could carry my weapon in an open holster, there in New York state,
    (but not the city, where you would need it most)

    They required me to turn in the CCW license, when I found out where Texas was,;..cause I wouldn't go back..:D
     
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