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That's not a Universal Carbine

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by GunnyUSMC, Dec 8, 2012.

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  1. GunnyUSMC

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    A few weeks ago I stopped in at one of the local pawn shops and spotted a M1 Carbine on the rack. The guy at the counter said that it was a Universal with an IBM barrel.
    I asked to have a look at it and this is what I saw.
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    The barrel markings were worn but I could make out the flaming boom and the letters OOD. It was not an IBM barrel. :think:
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    The top od the recever had what looked like the military markings.
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    It had the adjustable rear sight and I couldn't see the manufactuer name, but I could see the first two letters on the left side of the sight UN. When I looked on the right side of the sight I could see the letters OOD.
    It has been a long time since I saw the TV show Wheel of Furtune, but I still know how to play the game. UN_ _ _ _OOD, add DERW and you have UNDERWOOD. :cool:
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    As some of you know, I do my best to never pay the asking price on a used gun. So I asked what he could do on the price. He said he would let me have it for $450 out the door. ;)
    So I bought it. :D

    The stock has been sandes and will be replaced and it has a tiny import mark on the front bottom side of the barrel.
    Here are a few more pics.

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  2. 303tom

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    Nice...............
     
  3. Reloadron
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    Gunny you got yourself a nice little carbine at a great price. Unless those are cracks or something I see in the second image I would just refinish the wood. The M1 Carbine is just one of those little rifles you have to love. Enjoy it!

    Ron
     
  4. Sam1911

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    Hey! That's pretty nice! My Carbine is an Underwood left to me by my Uncle, and it gets regular workouts. Love that little gun!
     
  5. GunnyUSMC

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    Well, come to find out it is a Universal, but not a Universal Firearms. It is a rare WWII subcontracted receiver made by Universal Windings for Underwood.
    You can see the small W at the rear of the receiver in this pic.

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  6. WardenWolf

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    Nice score!
     
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    I saw that W and knew that it must have been a subcontracted receiver. I have a National Post Meter with a U stamped in the same place, the receiver was one of about 50,000 contracted out to Union Switch and Signal.
     
  8. Art Eatman

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    I saw a few carbines at the Tallahassee gun show, yesterday. Tags said around $1,100. Needless to say, I didn't bother to take a close look. :D
     
  9. Strange Bob

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    Very nice find, great observation(s), fairly decent negotiations :D.

    Congrats!
     
  10. GunnyUSMC

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    I have a lot of guns in my collection so, there is not much out there that I need. I like buying guns, but the hunt for great deals is what I love the best.
    Just look back at my post and you can see some of thost hunting trophies. :D
     
  11. PhotonSD

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    You are absolutely right that is not a Universal Carbine. I own one and will gladly trade you for that Underwood. Interested??? Huh? Uh, I'm guessing no. Congratulations on a great find.
     
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