The 3rd independent primer company that no one's talking about

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N555 said:
The one in texas.

They sounds a lot like speer in the 1990s when they were their own company.
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Maybe but we’ve hashed this out in several earlier threads in January. I confess to not having the patience to watch this 30+ minute promotional. But even still I’m highly skeptical.

Edit: actually I’m beyond skeptical..I say it’s bogus. The only actual source for any of this is the company talking to people and that being passed on to and by people like us who want it to be true. There was one article in the Arkansas Gazette back in January and even that was just the company blowing about their $100 million investment. But no independent verification can be found anywhere on Al Gore’s amazing internet.
 
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Lafitte said:
Do a bit of research for Zinc Point Manufacturing located in Huntsville, Texas then come to your own conclusion.
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I conclude that Zinc Point is selling primers made in Argentina. What's your point?
 
FWIW, I checked and Expansion Industries has it's own youtube channel. Has 99 followers and has had 3 or 4 videos up for 4 years. They were in biz making ammo even back then. Latest video is only a month or so old.......shows a job fair.........on a hillside........no factory in sight.
 
CoalCrackerAl said:
I'll stick with my favorite brand CCI.
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Vista supposedly isn't shipping anymore primers for the rest of 2022.
Screw them I'll gladly switch to mother Russia primers or GFL or serbian, or made in texas. Obviously my preference would be made in texas.

100 million dollars to expand a plant isn't that much. The plant expansions I'm intimately aware of are as follows:
Worlds most powerful cheese plant, built from the ground up for well over a billion dollars, had 2 large expansions since I have been there 160 million and a few years later 220 million. Grand total invested after the last expansion was to the tune of 2.2 billion dollars. All just to make cheese and whey products.
Another company reopened, modernized and expanded an old tire plant, for the low low price of 1 billion dollars.
100 million dollars doesn't go very far when you are talking about expanding, updating or building a factory.
 
I have used Winchester, Remington, Federal, CCI, from the good old USA and Alcan, Nobel, Fiocchi, and Cheddite from who knows where. To keep shooting, I don't care where they are made as long as it isn't Russia, N Korea, or China and they go bang.
Be nice if they were $27/1000 also.
 
N555 said:
Vista supposedly isn't shipping anymore primers for the rest of 2022.
Screw them I'll gladly switch to mother Russia primers or GFL or serbian, or made in texas. Obviously my preference would be made in texas.

100 million dollars to expand a plant isn't that much. The plant expansions I'm intimately aware of are as follows:
Worlds most powerful cheese plant, built from the ground up for well over a billion dollars, had 2 large expansions since I have been there 160 million and a few years later 220 million. Grand total invested after the last expansion was to the tune of 2.2 billion dollars. All just to make cheese and whey products.
Another company reopened, modernized and expanded an old tire plant, for the low low price of 1 billion dollars.
100 million dollars doesn't go very far when you are talking about expanding, updating or building a factory.
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But Expansion didn’t do it. It’s bogus. To spend/invest the dough you 1) have to have it or 2) have to borrow it (which is much harder). And if they’d already invested $100 million there would be some telltale evidence beyond an article in the Texarkana Gazette.

Edit: now I see on their Facebook page “the owner was misquoted” by the media and they are “planning” to invest $100 million. The cheese smells bad.

and it’s stinkier…Expansion moved to Texas because the owner, Richard Smissen, was caught in Virginia peddling a fraudulent ammunition investment scheme. Here is a link to the settlement with: https://scc.virginia.gov/docketsearch/DOCS/3f7h01!.PDF
 
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They sounds a lot like speer in the 1990s when they were their own company.[/QUOTE]

No, they sound more like Solyndra in the 2000s.

Must be one of the "three new primer factories" that radio talk host fantasized about a couple of years ago.
 
The video from the CEO of Federal MONTHS AGO about all their efforts (because we care) to get you primers yet it all seems to go new production. Expansion is not asking for pre order cash, or questionable investments with vague Customs Clearance problems, BUT...If they want to relocate to my city, I am sure our City Council will shower them with Fat Stacks of Cash and tax incentives for the promise of a few jobs...we have given more for less in the past...I wish them well and will gladly buy their primers even at a higher price just to stick it to the man that says they care and yet...Here we are...Reloading Tool Manufactures should have the biggest dog in this hunt, I am not buying any of their stuff lately either. I assume the OP was asking for an opinion, I had one.
 
That video doesn't inspire confidence for me. Since there is currently no Expansion Industries Plant equipped to make primers, the most important question would be: Where will the primers be manufactured?

Expansion Industries lists a Suite in Carrollton, TX, and another location in Hooks, Texas that doesn't show up on a map. At best they are in the process of building a facility. At worst, it's a scam.

The quality and type of information being released gives me serious doubts about this project's legitimacy.
 
The guy in that video failed to ask Southern Defense the most important question: WHEN?
 
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