Curious about my 442. I prefered it over a 642 because i just liked the looks better - you know black is beautiful and all. A couple posts have mentioned it was less expensive than the 642. Is that true or is that just, umm, prejudice? Mine has sweet rosewood grips too!
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bpisler
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The 442 was 60 dollars higher than the
642-2 i bought at the local sportsmans
warehouse.When i asked why i just got
the deer in the headlights look from
the clerk.
642-2 i bought at the local sportsmans
warehouse.When i asked why i just got
the deer in the headlights look from
the clerk.
kmrcstintn
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My snubbies...here, gone, here again, staying
I have owned several 642's and 442's over the past few years. I always did better with larger handguns, so the snubbies went in and out of the collection. I have become more serious about CCW in the past year.
Ironic how things change quickly. I recently totalled my car in an accident and lost my job, so I had to decide what stayed and what went. The latest 642 in the collection stayed and everything else got sold to cover bills...wasn't sure how long unemployment woul take to get & how long until I get my next job.
I'm still not the best shot with it, yet up close I'll probably need to point shoot it anyway. BTW...pocket carry; pants get Uncle Mike's Sidekick; coat gets DeSantis Nemesis...Bianchi Speed Strip for CCW backup; HKS speedloader for home backup...selected load is Hornady XTP 125gr JHP non +p
I have owned several 642's and 442's over the past few years. I always did better with larger handguns, so the snubbies went in and out of the collection. I have become more serious about CCW in the past year.
Ironic how things change quickly. I recently totalled my car in an accident and lost my job, so I had to decide what stayed and what went. The latest 642 in the collection stayed and everything else got sold to cover bills...wasn't sure how long unemployment woul take to get & how long until I get my next job.
I'm still not the best shot with it, yet up close I'll probably need to point shoot it anyway. BTW...pocket carry; pants get Uncle Mike's Sidekick; coat gets DeSantis Nemesis...Bianchi Speed Strip for CCW backup; HKS speedloader for home backup...selected load is Hornady XTP 125gr JHP non +p
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to answer a question posed on another page
"Is anybody carrying standard pressure .38 Spl loads, or all +P's?"
Standard pressure hollow point loads available:
Winchester Silvertip 110 grain, Federal Personal Defense Hydrashock 110 grain, Hornady XTP 125 grain & 158 grain, ?Corbon DPX 110 grain?, Ultramax remanufactured 125 grain
I personally use the Hornady XTP in 125 grain. I wish that Speer would develop a 125 grain Gold Dot load in non +p...much like the ole' Federal Nyclad 125 grain
"Is anybody carrying standard pressure .38 Spl loads, or all +P's?"
Standard pressure hollow point loads available:
Winchester Silvertip 110 grain, Federal Personal Defense Hydrashock 110 grain, Hornady XTP 125 grain & 158 grain, ?Corbon DPX 110 grain?, Ultramax remanufactured 125 grain
I personally use the Hornady XTP in 125 grain. I wish that Speer would develop a 125 grain Gold Dot load in non +p...much like the ole' Federal Nyclad 125 grain
Jubal Early
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My snubbies come and go too.
I had a nice 442 but when my daughter got her carry license she took it away from me.
So I got myself an nice new 642. I let my wife shoot it a few times and she took it for her own. So I found a brand new but older model 36. It has a shrouded (I think that is the right term) which I like a bit better because I can shoot it single action.
However I don't care for the original wood girps much. So I am going to find a set of rubberized similar to what was on the 642 and 442.
I had a nice 442 but when my daughter got her carry license she took it away from me.
So I got myself an nice new 642. I let my wife shoot it a few times and she took it for her own. So I found a brand new but older model 36. It has a shrouded (I think that is the right term) which I like a bit better because I can shoot it single action. However I don't care for the original wood girps much. So I am going to find a set of rubberized similar to what was on the 642 and 442.Y'all were right!!
Uncharacteristicly I purchased a 642 based on what I read on this thread. I must say gentleman & ladies, y'all were right.
Pocket Carry is real nice.
Shot today for first time with 30 rounds Rem UCC 38s and was nicely grouped at 10 and 15 ft.
Shot 135 GDHP's at 10' and 15' and while the recoil against my palm was stiff, still nice grouping.
Whoda thought.
Uncharacteristicly I purchased a 642 based on what I read on this thread. I must say gentleman & ladies, y'all were right.
Pocket Carry is real nice.
Shot today for first time with 30 rounds Rem UCC 38s and was nicely grouped at 10 and 15 ft.
Shot 135 GDHP's at 10' and 15' and while the recoil against my palm was stiff, still nice grouping.
Whoda thought.
fiVe
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Another convert!! Fishjar, welcome to the club.
fastbolt
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"Whoda thought" is one way to put it ...
I also held off a long time before picking up my 642-1, and once I discovered how much easier it was to carry than my 649 Bodyguard and SP-101 I spent some time mentally kicking myself for not having tried one sooner.
I wish that Speer would develop a 125 grain Gold Dot load in non +p...much like the ole' Federal Nyclad 125 grain
I also miss the Federal Nyclad standard pressure 125gr load.
I also held off a long time before picking up my 642-1, and once I discovered how much easier it was to carry than my 649 Bodyguard and SP-101 I spent some time mentally kicking myself for not having tried one sooner.
I wish that Speer would develop a 125 grain Gold Dot load in non +p...much like the ole' Federal Nyclad 125 grain
I also miss the Federal Nyclad standard pressure 125gr load.
the kurch man
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OK - my lack of knowledge will show
What is the difference between a 642-2 and a 642-1, or any other 642 versions that are out there? Thanks for your patience during my 'education'.
And by the way, I got my Mika pocket holster today in the mail... nice ... real nice.
What is the difference between a 642-2 and a 642-1, or any other 642 versions that are out there? Thanks for your patience during my 'education'.
And by the way, I got my Mika pocket holster today in the mail... nice ... real nice.
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Can I join? Not exactly a 642, but...this thread inspired the purchase. Brand new today, I have not yet fired it. It'll ride in the Nemesis I picked up along with it, or the Smartcarry that currently houses my PM9.
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summarizing the differences
"the difference between a 642-2 and a 642-1, or any other 642 versions "
first off: 642=stainless; 442=carbon steel
next: 642 (no dash)=the original variant; does not have the "magnum frame" extension at the back of the opening where the cylinder swings into the frame; usually polished steel parts, NOT rated for +p loads
more: 642-1=the first alteration in design; has the "magnum frame" extension at the back of the opening where the cylinder swings into the frame; not sure about finish on steel parts (guessing bead blasted); rated for +p loads
last: 642-2=the newest alteration in design; basically a 642-1 model with the integral lock system (ILS); bead blasted finish on steel parts
the 442 series follows the same alteration designations...442, 442-1, 442-2
"the difference between a 642-2 and a 642-1, or any other 642 versions "
first off: 642=stainless; 442=carbon steel
next: 642 (no dash)=the original variant; does not have the "magnum frame" extension at the back of the opening where the cylinder swings into the frame; usually polished steel parts, NOT rated for +p loads
more: 642-1=the first alteration in design; has the "magnum frame" extension at the back of the opening where the cylinder swings into the frame; not sure about finish on steel parts (guessing bead blasted); rated for +p loads
last: 642-2=the newest alteration in design; basically a 642-1 model with the integral lock system (ILS); bead blasted finish on steel parts
the 442 series follows the same alteration designations...442, 442-1, 442-2
HiVelocity
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642? 342? 442?
Folks,
I thought I'd throw my two cents worth in. I am a police officer and I carry my 342 in an Eagle Industries Upside-Down (UAH) ankle holster 24/7. Very comfortable and reliable; you can even jog with it on.
Bullet selection in the snubbies? One of 2 loads. The Cor-Bon DPX or PowrBall. These are the ONLY two loads that fully penetrated 4 layers of denim in recent tests that penetrated and expanded as advertised, no others did. All the other hollow pointed ammo simply clogged up with denim and became "hardball".
I shoot 100 rounds every 3 months to be proficient. Although you only have a short barrel, you can still be accurate and fast if you practice routinely.
JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT.
HiVelocity
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Folks,
I thought I'd throw my two cents worth in. I am a police officer and I carry my 342 in an Eagle Industries Upside-Down (UAH) ankle holster 24/7. Very comfortable and reliable; you can even jog with it on.
Bullet selection in the snubbies? One of 2 loads. The Cor-Bon DPX or PowrBall. These are the ONLY two loads that fully penetrated 4 layers of denim in recent tests that penetrated and expanded as advertised, no others did. All the other hollow pointed ammo simply clogged up with denim and became "hardball".
I shoot 100 rounds every 3 months to be proficient. Although you only have a short barrel, you can still be accurate and fast if you practice routinely.
JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT.
HiVelocity
Cop in SC
the kurch man
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Speer Gold Dot
The local gun shop said the Speer Gold Dot was the way to go in a snubbie as it was engineered for it. Any experience with that as a 38+p load for penetration, etc...?
The local gun shop said the Speer Gold Dot was the way to go in a snubbie as it was engineered for it. Any experience with that as a 38+p load for penetration, etc...?
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$ .02
The Speer load was designed at the request of NYPD for their officers who utilize older S&W 640's after Federal announced that they were discontinuing production of the Nyclad Hollowpoints. Somewhere on the blasted internet is information showing the results of tests that were conducted by Speer. I think it is in PDF form. I used to have it on the hard drive, but had to dump alot of files to improve reliability.
The Speer load was designed at the request of NYPD for their officers who utilize older S&W 640's after Federal announced that they were discontinuing production of the Nyclad Hollowpoints. Somewhere on the blasted internet is information showing the results of tests that were conducted by Speer. I think it is in PDF form. I used to have it on the hard drive, but had to dump alot of files to improve reliability.
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Matheath
She's BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!
Welcome and thanks for the opportunity to drool!
She's BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!
Welcome and thanks for the opportunity to drool!
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Mika Pocket Holster
Ok, ok, I get it, I need a Mika! Got my buddy JimmyC preaching it on another forum and now all you guys join in, OK I'LL GET ONE!!!!!!
Really glad you guys tipped me off to the Nemesis, I have an Uncle Mikes now and was debating on buying a Nemesis or a Mika. Decision made and no money wasted, I am in your debt!
Ok, ok, I get it, I need a Mika! Got my buddy JimmyC preaching it on another forum and now all you guys join in, OK I'LL GET ONE!!!!!!
Really glad you guys tipped me off to the Nemesis, I have an Uncle Mikes now and was debating on buying a Nemesis or a Mika. Decision made and no money wasted, I am in your debt!
A few questions from a new guy...
Hi all,
A new guy here. I was at a local store yesterday and they showed me a nice 642. I had previously thought I wanted a smaller auto loader for CCW but the owner really stressed the virtues of the little 642. I handled it and it really felt very nice.
How does the alum body hod up with CCW in your pocket? I see that most have a pocket holster but does the alum body get beat up with normal use? Maybe I'm just from the old school and think that steel is better....
Also, what is a good price for a used 642? budsgunshop.com has it for about $325 and my local dealer is $365. What does a good condition used one go for?
Thanks,
Techieguy
Hi all,
A new guy here. I was at a local store yesterday and they showed me a nice 642. I had previously thought I wanted a smaller auto loader for CCW but the owner really stressed the virtues of the little 642. I handled it and it really felt very nice.
How does the alum body hod up with CCW in your pocket? I see that most have a pocket holster but does the alum body get beat up with normal use? Maybe I'm just from the old school and think that steel is better....
Also, what is a good price for a used 642? budsgunshop.com has it for about $325 and my local dealer is $365. What does a good condition used one go for?
Thanks,
Techieguy
308win
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New go for 320-340 in central Ohio.
I pocket carry a 642 every day. A friend of mine couldn't believe that I was carrying one time when I was wearing shorts!The only time I don't carry it is when it gets really cold here, in the 40's, and I wear jeans. The Kahr K9 goes along then.
Another friend said "my gun is so big and bulky" and that was his excuse for not carrying.
Another friend said "my gun is so big and bulky" and that was his excuse for not carrying.
bpisler
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Techieguy,it really depends on where you
live, here in arizona i wouldn't pay over
300 dollars for a used one.The only
exception would be a very,very lightly
used one,i paid $329.00 for my 642-2.
You'll find some people that would pay
more for a pre lock model (642,642-1)
compared to a 642-2 which has the lock.
live, here in arizona i wouldn't pay over
300 dollars for a used one.The only
exception would be a very,very lightly
used one,i paid $329.00 for my 642-2.
You'll find some people that would pay
more for a pre lock model (642,642-1)
compared to a 642-2 which has the lock.
Rejoined the 642 club this past week. Had a 642-1 bought in 2001 and foolishly sold a couple of years later. :banghead: For the past three months I have been looking for another 642-1 (+P rated with no internal lock) , but discovered they are becoming very difficult to find. Anyway, thanks to a poster on this forum, I located one out of state and quickly snatched it up. Here's a photo:
Steve 48
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Love my 642 even with the lock. Shoots dead on and is a pleasure to carry. Steve 48
Well Im half way in the 642 Club! Im waiting on my 642 with factory installed CT 305's to come in a day or so! I didnt know if I would like the 305's so I bought a pair of 205's too. Ill put the 205's on when I get it and Ill have a backup pair. I might put the 305's on my old ladys 60LS. I went ahead and bought 2 Mika pocket holsters(one round/one square).
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