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The clever GOP strategy for defeat in November

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  1. xd9fan

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    Wall street Journal opinion journal 4-13-06

    The Minority Maker
    The clever GOP strategy for defeat in November.

    Thursday, April 13, 2006 12:01 a.m. EDT

    If Republicans lose control of Congress in November, they might want to look back at last Thursday as the day it was lost. That's when the big spenders among House Republicans blew up a deal between the leadership and rank-in-file to impose some modest spending discipline.

    Unlike the collapse of the immigration bill, this fiasco can't be blamed on Senate Democrats. This one is all about Republicans and their refusal to give up their power to spend money at will and pass out "earmarks" like a bartender offering drinks on the house. The chief culprits are the House Appropriators, led by Committee Chairman Jerry Lewis of California and his 13 subcommittee chairmen known as "cardinals." If Republicans lose the House--and they are well on their way--Mr. Lewis deserves the moniker of the minority maker.

    For weeks, the Republican Study Committee, a group of fiscally conservative Members, had been negotiating a spending outline with the House leadership. But when they finally struck a deal last week, Mr. Lewis refused to go along and threatened to defeat the budget on the House floor if Speaker Denny Hastert brought it up. With Democrats opposing the budget as a matter of party unity, GOP leaders gave up and left town for Easter recess without a vote on their budget blueprint for 2007.

    Political hardball isn't new to Congress, but what's especially notable here is the utter cluelessness by Mr. Lewis and his friends about how much trouble they're in and how to get out of it. The rank-and-file Members who haven't yet gone native in Washington realize that their biggest problem is the disappointment of Republican voters at Congress's free-spending ways. If those voters stay home in November, Mr. Lewis will soon be known as Mr. Ranking Member.

    Then again, he's been there before and doesn't seem to mind. Mr. Lewis, who is now in his 14th term, was one of those Republicans who were utterly comfortable in the minority before the Gingrich Revolution in 1994. As chairman of the GOP Conference, Mr. Lewis was the No. 4 Republican in the House before Dick Armey challenged him for the post in 1992 and won--in part because Mr. Lewis was a lot less than revolutionary.

    Since that defeat, he's hunkered down as one of the GOP's spenders-in-chief, presiding over multiplying earmarks and chopping to bits the party's reputation as fiscal conservatives. When President Bush recently asked Congress to pass a modified line-item veto, among the first to complain was Mr. Lewis. The spending baron told the Rules Committee last month that the line-item veto "could be a very serious error" that threatens the separation of powers. "We are the legislative branch of government."

    Translation: Mr. Lewis is opposed to any budget reform that would give the President more leverage to limit his ability to spend tax dollars like there's no tomorrow. On the item veto, this puts him to the fiscal left of John Kerry, Al Gore, and, well, it's hard to get any further left than that.

    The reforms that Mr. Lewis objected to can only be called modest in any case. In return for supporting President Bush's $873 billion discretionary spending limit for Fiscal 2007, the conservatives had sought a few budget "process" reforms. Kevin Brady of Texas wanted a floor vote to establish a commission to sunset federal agencies that have outlived their usefulness. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin asked for a floor vote on the line-item veto--just a vote. Mr. Lewis and his band of spenders would still have the chance to try and defeat it on the House floor.

    Jeff Flake of Arizona wanted each spending "earmark" to be identified along with the Member who requested it, so perhaps lawmakers might be shamed into using tax dollars more responsibly. He assumed, wrongly as it turned out, that a legislative body that has allowed these pork projects to quadruple in the past five years is still capable of being embarrassed.

    Another important reform would have addressed the "supplemental" spending shell game on Capitol Hill, whereby initial spending requests that fall within the limits of a budget blueprint are inevitably augmented by so-called "emergency" spending. And since this "emergency" spending falls outside the budget framework, the sky's the limit. The proposed reform would have set criteria for what constitutes an emergency, established a rainy day fund for when one occurs, and required a House Budget Committee vote to increase spending beyond the amount in the reserve.

    All of this is a far cry from a wholesale and much-needed rewrite of the Democratic budget act of 1974, which Republicans once promised to redo if they ever won the House. That passion has faded as the GOP settled into a cushy incumbent status quo. But facing a sudden revolt among their own younger Members this year, the House leadership finally agreed to the small reforms. The problem now is that Mr. Hastert, new Majority Leader John Boehner and Majority Whip Roy Blunt can't seem to exert any leadership over Mr. Lewis. Maybe they're practicing for taking orders from Speaker Nancy Pelosi next year.

    A category five political storm is building in GOP precincts around the country, and it is going to blow Republicans right out of the majority in November if they don't soon give their supporters some reason to re-elect them. So far this year they've passed limits on free speech that liberals love, but they haven't been able to extend the wildly successful 2003 tax cuts by even a mere two years. And now they won't even allow a vote on budget reforms that their own President and a majority of their own Members support.

    At the current pace, a Democratic majority in Congress would be preferable, if only for reasons of truth in advertising.
     
  2. boofus

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    The illegal immigration failure has me so infuriated I don't need to see the government spending to make me vote 3rd party or stay at home come November.

    This weekend the government is screwing me out of 30% of my pay and they refuse to fulfill their most fundamental duty-> defining borders.
     
  3. HankB

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    Almost a "+1" . . . but I think their spending of MY money like drunken sailors in a bordello after two years at sea is just as much a problem as the illegal alien situation. (And I'm NOT referring here to defense spending.)

    The only thing - and I mean the only thing - positive I can recall from the GOP control of both Congress and the White House is that by doing nothing, they allowed the AWB to expire.

    And a fair number of RINOS weren't at all happy about that. :barf:
    Only 30%? You're probably not adding everything up correctly.
     
  4. longeyes

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    And if the Dems control House and Senate, what's the impact going to be on gun rights?
     
  5. Reno

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    Which is worse, a slow push towards total confiscation with steps that only "extremists" would oppose, or a hard and fast push that is easier to fight against in the court of public opinion?
     
  6. Manedwolf

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    Depends which ones. If Feinstein and Schumer get muzzled, the rest seem to be realizing that gun control is a big loser and also ineffective. Hopefully.

    It depends on who the next President is, too. Russ Feingold, for one, voted against the AWB renewal. And here's something from a site about him:

    He's a 2A supporter! So he might not be bad at all.

    Hillary, on the other hand...better have stuff ready to bury all your guns and ammo in the backyard. :barf:
     
  7. one-shot-one

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    They all need to come out of their bubbles and get back in touch with the people. The republicans could loose the Congress and Senate and quite possibly the whitehouse. Then where will we be with the lefties appointing judges, supreme court and others, we all know how many of them feel about the 2A.. Staying home and not voting cannot be an option. I can tell you here in Colorado there is a new bunch of people running for office, from local to state to federal.. Get out find out about those in your area and help the ones who will do right for you... The fewer voters the more likely the left will win..

    And voting for a party other than the dems/reps in not a wasted vote.

    Don't forget all the taxes on gas, property, clothes, etc. It's alot hight than 30%



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    yeah Cuda

    at this point having the rep's smiling and stabing me in the back makes me no happier than the dem's frowning and stabing me in the chest!:fire:
     
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    If Hillary wins 2008, and the Dems take both the House and the Senate, prepare for UN Peacekeepers to be deployed along the US/Mexico border, in preparation for the UN plebescite on Aztlan, and how much reparations the US Treasury will fork over to Presidente Vincente Fox for our daring to win the Mexican-American War. UN Peacekeepers will have power over all state, local, and federal agencies, and foreign troops will conduct house to house raids for weapons, communications gear, explosives, and other "subversive" materials, especially in the "disputed zone". Fuel stocks, foodstuffs, and all other "materials of war" will be confiscated according to pre existing Executive Orders just awaiting the Hildebeast's signature.
    When Aztlan is formed, Billary will request to be appointed UN governor for life over the diminished USA, voiding the entire US Constitution at once, and establishing herself as top dog in the reformed Socialist States of East America, in her grand scheme. The US will diminish, crumble, and vanish into the dustbin of history, labled, "Great idea, killed from within."
    Pardon me, my tinfoil hat got REALLY tight - did I cover everything currently bandied about? Now I have to worry about fed.gov placing my name on a watch list for exercising my 1st Amendment rights...tinfoiling or not.
     
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    A few years back, I decided to tally up ALL the taxes paid in one year, to ALL governments. The bite was 56% of my earnings.

    I'm a sharecropper in my own freaking life. :cuss:
     
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    Can't agree more.. That's why we need to make a strong point of voting even if it is a third party.. We may not win this time but the reps & dems will get the message and so will those who stay home. If they see a ground swell for their 3rd party that might get them to go and vote.. Maybe I live in a fantasy land but we can't give up.

    C
     
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    Russ of McCain-Feingold? Yes, I REALLY want him in the White House. :(
     
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    Tar and feathers. That about sums up my opinion on the matter.
     
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    Little things...

    Who are the 13?

    Thats a good thing. The line-item-veto is bad, and Bush needs checked occaisionally.

    Maned,

    *Snort* Has he brought forth legislation to help us, or is he simply saying 'Please, forgive me, I won't attack you guys any more...until I can get away with it?' Don't be so quick to trust.

    armored,

    If such a scenario comes true, we might actually see another revolution, and a good chance to get our freedom back.
     
  16. xd9fan

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    I still shake my head at the complete collapse of the Republician Revolution of 1994. With it the complete collapse of the Conservative movement within that party. Amazing. The "Leaders" in the party seem deaf.

    I agree with Reno and the last line of the above article. I want a fight for freedom not this slow death by a thousand cuts which the current Pro Govt party seems to think is a winning strategy.

    I wonder how many more guys like me in the last 2 years got sober and left the GOP???? HMMMM
     
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    I am no longer a registered Republican.They forgot why they got elected;it's time for them to take a time out and either rediscover limited government and fiscal responsibility or allow a 3rd party to replace them as an alternative to the Democrats.next Presidential vote.
     
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    If you have masochistic tendencies, click on the link and watch the deficit grow.

    http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/opd/opdpenny.htm

    Between City, County, State, and Federal taxes, most people get taxed between 50% and 80%.

    Income Taxes
    Property Taxes
    Excise Taxes
    Sales Taxes
    Investment Taxes
    Inheritance Taxes
    ETC, ETC, ETC
     
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    1) This thread is off topic

    2) You won't have any friends in the legislature unless you vote for them.
     
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    That's not nearly as much fun though. :D
     
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    Well, we will all just have to wait and see what happens. I know I wish I had some third party candidates to vote for because i cannot vote for the current republican regime. As for the president suporting these limits...do you really believe that? C'mon...if he was really behind limits and reducing his own power he would be doing alot more than the occasional lip service on CNN.
     
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    After nearly 40 years Ive left the party Bush and his merry band of spend and spend Has been enough for me. :barf:
     
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    Good riddence to bad rubbish.

    The Republicans have already lost the Senate, they are now working on losing the House. Personally, I am not sorry to see them become the minority party in both chambers. At least they then will realize that Americans are not stuiped or as conservative as they though they where. They have over extended their stay, in power and are now corrupt. It would be best to have the Dems retake control to right many of the wrongs the Republicans have done over the last decade. I believe the Dems for the most part will not try to alienate gun owners at least not at first. Maybe they will come around nationaly on their gun control platform and be more moderate. If not then we will have to fight hard for out rights, we have become to complaciant in recent years. I believe most Americans are looking for a change in their Goverment and the only way to do that is to have the Dems back in power. I am not a supporter of any Third parties, and I have serious issues with the Libertarian, Green and Consitution party platforms. None the less a vote for a third party is a vote against the Republicans and a stand for change. Let your vote be counted.
     
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    The Repubs really have done everything they could do to anger their old core, which is the "small government, small budget, small taxes, small debt" Republican core, to which I would belong if it still had any say in today's Republican party.
     
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