The Combat .22 Semi-Auto

[Mark_Mark]

I've used 22 for 30+ years. Started with dad's H&R revolver and even carried a Beretta 21a for ccw at the coast. 99.999% of the jams ive had were dud primers and that makes no difference revolver or auto. Plus ive never had to send an auto back. Ive sent back 2 new revolvers for light strike and that not at all rare.

My 800 dollar Ruger and Smith revolvers both had to go back for light strikes. My 300 dollar Glock and Neos never went back. Then factor in that both weigh more than a full size Glock 17 or 22 and over double a loaded Glock 44 and id say the revolver is an iffy choice. I hunt with one but if I have to carry a K frame it may as well fire a 357 mag or 44 for SD.

That's another one you hear, and I have a Grendel p-30 since the 90s (predecessor to the pmr-30) among others. Ive fired thousands of bricks of ammo. Rimlock is usually what bad manufacturers blame jams on rather than something you really see. You would have to try to get a round in most mags with the rim behind the next one down. I don't know that I've ever actually seen it

Most of the reputation for unreliability of 22 stems from the bulk ammo (and even some normal ammo) of the past. In the 90s and before, and 2000s too a brick of 500 WOULD have 3-5 or more duds. That's a round that will not go off. You can turn it and try again. To u can put it another gun... nothing. Then you had 5-10 that didn't go off first try despite a perfectly good strike. Turn them and they go off.

The revolver had the advantage that you could either cock and shoot again or in DA pull the trigger again and just eject it with the empties with an auto you usually had to dig it out with a knife.

I get rim lock in my Beretta 87 Target before I knew what rimlock was. Then I leaned to pay attention when loading ammo, don’t just just drop them in. But with the Ruger Mark or 10/22… they got that fool proof

 

[crestoncowboy]

I get rim lock in my Beretta 87 Target before I knew what rimlock was. Then I leaned to pay attention when loading ammo, don’t just just drop them in. But with the Ruger Mark or 10/22… they got that fool proof

Maybe I just never did it. May just be the way I load mags. But ever since I was a kid I just loaded the mags the easiest way I could and never had an issue. Beretta 87, 21a, neos, high standard, ruger standard, woodsman right up to mosquito, pmr-30, p-30 and amt. Nearly all my jams have been duds. The next most common ( and still rare) is when the bullet bends on the feed ramp and then locks the gun halfway into battery

 

[Mark_Mark]

Maybe I just never did it. May just be the way I load mags. But ever since I was a kid I just loaded the mags the easiest way I could and never had an issue. Beretta 87, 21a, neos, high standard, ruger standard, woodsman right up to mosquito, pmr-30, p-30 and amt. Nearly all my jams have been duds. The next most common ( and still rare) is when the bullet bends on the feed ramp and then locks the gun halfway into battery

the adventure of .22 auto! I do like .22 revolvers tho

 

[chicharrones]

I get rim lock in my Beretta 87 Target before I knew what rimlock was. Then I leaned to pay attention when loading ammo, don’t just just drop them in. But with the Ruger Mark or 10/22… they got that fool proof

The Ruger MK has a steeply angled magazine that reduces that from being a problem. Same with a Beretta Neos, Browning Buckmark, etc. The Beretta 87's mag is angled about like a typical centerfire pistol mag.

But to be honest, the only worry I've ever had with rimlock was with .32 ACP due to those rims being less obvious to the eye than .22 LR or .22 WMR.

 

[Mark_Mark]

The Ruger MK has a steeply angled magazine to reduce that from being a problem. Same with a Beretta Neos, Browning Buckmark, etc. The Beretta 87's mag is angled about like a typical centerfire pistol mag.

But to be honest, the only worry I've ever had with rimlock was with .32 ACP due to those rims being less obvious to the eye than .22 LR or .22 WMR.

I’m have the 87 Target lock up on me! it’s annoying, but a learning moment