The threaded muzzle may not be our cup of tea, but if it is well done and unobtrusive, may make the gun more desirable for someone else some day. It costs maybe $4 at the factory, but more like $50 plus at LGS, more if the mag must be bobbed.
The first batch of Rarlins ship today!
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CraigC
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If Ruger does these right, people 'might' just realize that the JM guns weren't really all 'that' good in the first place. 
chicharrones
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If Ruger does these right, people 'might' just realize that the JM guns weren't really all 'that' good in the first place.
Yessir. I’d guess that some second hand JM buyers might have found a good gun because the first buyer got it fixed under warranty or did some tuning.
I know whoever gets my Remlin someday will think it was made right the first time. But I know better.
Even my JM 39AS needing some tuning by me. That thing was a light striking, heavy trigger machine from the factory.
While I’m rolling, ask me if I’ll miss microgroove rifling.
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Buzznrose
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Yep.
The JM proof tested Marlins were great guns, but there isn’t a company around today that will support it under any type of warranty work, so it is what it is. Of course, good gunsmiths can make repairs.
In addition to the improvements to the new Marlins, you will be getting Ruger customer service, which by most accounts is a leg up from the past situation under Remington.
I also get the love of the “blued and wood” guns. I suspect they will come in time. This is just the first iteration.
This is NOT a cheap gun by any means. But I suspect had Ruger launched the first Marlin lever as a “Marlin American” with plastic furniture and a ceracoat barrel and receiver for $499, they would have gotten a lot of grief for that.
someguy2800
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My first remlin 1895 was also deadly accurate and I also got mine for something under $300 after mail in rebate. I havn't shot my current remlin enough the have an opinion on accuracy. Its been a safe queen so for but I finally got some new sights to get it squared away.
someguy2800
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My first Marlin went back because of a canted front sight and it could not be zero'd. When it came back they had just tightened the barrel another few degrees so the front sight was now straight but the rear sight was now canted as well as the mag tube. Good ole Remington.
I will say my CBA is so far as I can see flawless and well fitted.I have been a blued steel and walnut guy for a long time but I have grown tired of taking care of all of them and wincing over wood dings. I would actually really love a cerakote and plastic stocked $499 marlin to go with my pretty one. Your right though, that would not have been a good public relations move.
danez71
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Not surprising to me.
It seems that when those comparisons are made that the new models aren't as smooth as the previous generation renditions, people dont take into account that those old ones have countless rounds through them that smoothed them out.
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how do they price out compared to the comperable Winchesters made in Japan? The sticker price on new Winchester's has kept me from seriously considering. Figured I'd wait to see what Ruger does, or maybe grab a Henry - people who get them seem to like them.
chicharrones
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Currently offered in .45-70? Of course, these are all traditionally styled.
$1,409.99
https://www.winchesterguns.com/products/rifles/model-1886/current/model-1886-short-rifle.html
$1,549.99
https://www.winchesterguns.com/prod...6/current/model-1886-saddle-ring-carbine.html
$1,839.99
https://www.winchesterguns.com/prod...nt/model-1886-deluxe-rifle-case-hardened.html
Buzznrose
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How about a Mossberg? I hear they actually run fine…but kinda fugly….
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troy fairweather
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I think they look great and the price is reasonable, 45-70 levers aren't cheap. The Henry is a no go with its butter soft insides. Adjusted for inflation id Bet these are around the same price a new Marlin would have been In the 50s or 60s.
Even the picture of the guns on the rack look better then what Remington put out, you could see problems from 10 feet away.
Even the picture of the guns on the rack look better then what Remington put out, you could see problems from 10 feet away.
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Speedo66
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I wouldn’t have expected him to say anything else and still think he had a job. lol
No cut rifling. Ruger is hammer forging the barrels just like all their other rifles.
gotboostvr
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Still better than the micro groove rifleing
I have no problem with microgroove unless it is something bigger I want to shoot cast bullets out of it.
troy fairweather
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The micro grove works just fine with cast just have to size the to the bore. Often they need a larger diameter then normal tho.
I see a micro and it's not a 22 RF, I just load jacketed bullets.
Not my cup of tea. Hopefully, those to come will be, but I'd be happy if Ruger just made properly hardened rear band screws for the million(s) of 336's already out there. Somebody needs to step up with quality parts for all these older guns. But since Ruger doesn't support its own tang-safety M77's, I won't hold my breath.
Somebody needs to step up with quality parts for all these older guns. But since Ruger doesn't support its own tang-safety M77's, I won't hold my breath.
CoalTrain49
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New Winchesters are mighty hard to find in the wild. Every now and then a dealer gets one and a 15-20% premium gets tacked on to the price.
Looks like the offering and price is right in line with best Industry practices. They have invested a good deal of money bringing these to market, and there is excess demand for these currently. So it makes good financial sense to first introduce the highest margin model that has the widest appeal. So, 45-70 stainless with a poly stock....sounds about right. As market demand is satiated, the price comes down, margin comes down, and more affordable offerings will come out. And then there is the scale of the operation, as more units are produced, the investment is amortized over a wider range of products there becomes a higher incentive to go after market share, and a wider range is produced to capture a wider range of interests. Long way of saying, if these aren't your cuppa tea, hang tight....they'll build more
Omaha-BeenGlockin
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I'm wanting a .30-30 but the street price is going to have to be sub-$1k----well below $1k actually----otherwise I'll just pick up another Browning X-bolt
Orion Jim
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That 1886 Deluxe Case Hardened Rifle……wow, just wow…..
someguy2800
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That is horrendous. I wouldn’t mind one of the more conventional ones but they would have to chamber it in something other than 30/30 to get me interested. They seam to be discontinued now.
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chicharrones
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Back to Marlin (or Henry), something weird is afoot at Ranger Point.
https://rangerpointstore.com/modular-butt-stock/
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