The first batch of Rarlins ship today!

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How about a Mossberg? I hear they actually run fine…but kinda fugly….

LINK REMOVED BY SPATS MCGEE BECAUSE IT MADE MY VIRUS SCAN GO CRAZY.

I don't know about the legitimacy of the site, but it's certainly not up to date. The ATR and 4x4 have long been superseded by the Patriot and MVP line.
 
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I think they look great and the price is reasonable, 45-70 levers aren't cheap. The Henry is a no go with its butter soft insides. Adjusted for inflation id Bet these are around the same price a new Marlin would have been In the 50s or 60s.

Even the picture of the guns on the rack look better then what Remington put out, you could see problems from 10 feet away.

How soft or weak are the internals of a Henry?
 
I'll just have to keep what I have for now,
and see what happens in the future.
I have enough ammo to last a good while
and pop whatever might need popping.
If nothing else, I still have at least a dozen
new unused arrows RTG in the box
Sticks and strings are for kids.....silly wabbit
 
The way the component industry is going, we all may be going to a good recurve before long.
Well I sure hope not! .....I stocked up enough to last me till I don't need it anymore....not a hoarder- just been acquiring for a long time...
 
I'm not sure that Marlin (Ruger) would be interested in getting into the CAS market with all of the Italian, Brazilian and Japanese offerings. If you look closely at their website the 3 models they advertise all have hunters carrying those. I'm not seeing any repros like a Win 92 or 73 in their line up, or even a Marlin 94 repro with walnut and blued steel. Most CAS buyers will be looking for something in 45 Colt or some other pistol cartridge compatible rifle. Just a guess.

That's why I'm moving on in my search for a 44 Mag lever rifle. I would love a traditional blued Marlin 94 with walnut in 44 Mag but I don't think it will happen. Ruger isn't after my dollar, obviously.
 
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I'm not sure that Marlin (Ruger) would be interested in getting into the CAS market with all of the Italian, Brazilian and Japanese offerings. If you look closely at their website the 3 models they advertise all have hunters carrying those. I'm not seeing any repros like a Win 92 or 73 in their line up, or even a Marlin 94 repro with walnut and blued steel. Most CAS buyers will be looking for something in 45 Colt or some other pistol cartridge compatible rifle. Just a guess.

That's why I'm moving on in my search for a 44 Mag lever rifle. Ruger isn't after my dollar.

Ruger is already into the CAS market in a big way. They make the Vaquero, remember? Plus, Marlins have been popular in CAS for a very long time. I can easily see Ruger tailoring the Marlin 1894 to work with the Vaquero.
 
How about a Mossberg? I hear they actually run fine…but kinda fugly….

LINK REMOVED BY SPATS MCGEE BECAUSE IT MADE MY VIRUS SCAN GO CRAZY.


Absolutely the ugliest, dumbest looking rifle ever!:what:

Fugly is too kind!:)
 
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I think they look great and the price is reasonable, 45-70 levers aren't cheap. The Henry is a no go with its butter soft insides. Adjusted for inflation id Bet these are around the same price a new Marlin would have been In the 50s or 60s.
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Butter soft insides?

Even the picture of the guns on the rack look better then what Remington put out, you could see problems from 10 feet away.
 
I intend to buy the new 1895 SBL as soon as I can get my hands on one. Improved over both the JM and Remington. As far as ugly, the 1895SBL was the volume seller and that is why Ruger picked it to lead off with. The 1895SBL (Guide Gun) goes for some fantastic prices on the auction sites upwards of $3,000. There is pent up demand for the SBL and that is evident in used prices. The 1895SBL (stainless big loop) was introduced by Marlin long before being sold off to Remington. Not sure why all of the consternation and hate and not sure some folks understand this is 2022 and not 1962. Yes, prices will reflect that reality. Ruger has run through every part and improved materials and functionality and manufacturing processes over both old Marlin and Remington rifles and the new guns are all forged receivers. There just is no reason for the hate just because Marlin did not choose your favorite model to lead off with. I guess when all the manufacturers are gone and nobody makes ammo anymore or reloading supplies or equipment to do so we will be happy I suppose with sticks snd stones. At least they are free for the taking. If we do not support them that is what we will have, nothing.
 
If they do everything correctly, I think 1895s and 336s will have no problem selling for $1,200+. If I were to get one it would be the only 336 I'd own. For those thinking the price is too high that's fine but there are plenty of guys forking over $30k for a used six year old F150 with over a 100k miles on it.
 
Soft enough the cow boy action guys at the shops won't touch them, Henry has always used questionable materials, they now now to make a pig look good in lipstick tho.

Don’t want to hijack the thread, but I think it’s important to note that cowboy action folks run their rifles to the edge as race guns, with slicked up actions to run as buttery smooth as possible, with as short a stroke as possible to shave every possible fraction of a second. Model 73’s, 94’s, and even 92’s are better candidates for this.

I think it’s a fair critique to say the Henry Big Boys are not good candidates for race guns if you’re serious about competitive cowboy action. I don’t think that means the Henry should be dismissed altogether.
 
The new Marlin is expensive but when you consider what you are getting compared to what other 45-70s are selling for I think its a bargain. Early in this thread I posted a GB link showing some of the wild ass prices being asked for other brands and older Marlins so if I were in the market for another 45-70 (I'm not) I would be all over this gun.

I hope they come out with a 30-30 that has Ballard rifling so its easier to shoot lead bullet loads. I don't care if the muzzle is threaded. I don't need a suppressor. I am not all that keen one the Picitinny rail either but if it had it then OK. I would prefer the more stripped down version with walnut and blue and ballard rifling. I would happily pay $700-800 for a gun like that. I really like the 30-30 round and have three 30-30s now including a Mossberg. But not that ugly one. I have a Marine Trapper with 16" barrel and laminate stock with conventional rifling. I haven't shot it yet. They are not easy to find and never were. I paid around $600 for that gun NIB. So a top notch gun from Ruger would definitely be on my radar.

And while Ruger is making these in 45-70s maybe they will see the way clear to make them in 444 Marlin with 1-20 twist. I would be all over one of those price be damned.
 
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Here is a link to the thread I started on the Mossberg Marine Trapper. Looks like I paid $500 not $600 like I thought. I don't mind spending money on a gun if I am getting quality. And this Ruger built Marlin looks like its at the top of the class. Now if Savage would see the light and bring back the model 99 with the rotary mag and other features of the early models and offer it in 250 Savage my life would be complete. :)

https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/mossberg-marine-trapper.893007/
 
Seeing how the suppressor I currently have in jail is rated for 45-70, I may be interested once prices get down under MSRP.

Although a 450 bushmaster would be cheaper and more practical, I've got a soft spot for levers and it'd be quieter and more dependable with the right loads.
 
Seeing how the suppressor I currently have in jail is rated for 45-70, I may be interested once prices get down under MSRP.

Although a 450 bushmaster would be cheaper and more practical, I've got a soft spot for levers and it'd be quieter and more dependable with the right loads.

I would love a 16" 450 Bushmaster lever, especially for suppressed shooting. I wouldn't be able to use monolithic subsonic expanding bullets, would need to find a nice SP or Cast bullet for the tube mag but that's the least of my worries. I know it's sacrilege but a nice 3x micro red dot with etched reticle (shown below) would be the ticket for light and fast, primary arms makes a nice one with a chevron would be nice if it had a few bullet drops below for dialing in subs rather than the ranging marks.

PA-SLX-1XMP-CYCLOPS-G_04.jpg
 
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