The incredible arrogance of public employees

[Mr. Clark]

Don't want to speak for SemperFi83, but I think "Low Station Syndrome" is a name for the actions of those who hold what they and/or others view as a low station in life. They resent it and take it out on those who don't hold such a low station in life.

Pesonally, I don't think that a security guard is such a low station. There are worse jobs. I know, I've done some of them. But if the person in control sees it differently and thinks it unfair, they can make life difficult.

 

[makarov5]

Getting back on the topic of govt. employment, I used to work for the Dept. of Ag. It is IMPOSSIBLE to get fired! Just keep your paperwork in order, and you have guaranteed job security. There is no incentive to excel or do anything other than just "get by". You gotta love job security! Even though the tasks are menial and unnecessary, just keep your paperwork in order, attempt to look busy, and you've got it made. I just couldn't take another 30 years of govt. employment. I got out. Best decision I've ever made.

 

[tyme]

In most jurisdictions, knife blades are measured to where they intersect the handle -- the length of the sharpened portion is irrelevant. Both knives on the leatherman wave are about 2 15/16".

 

[Dex Sinister]

In most jurisdictions, knife blades are measured to where they intersect the handle -- the length of the sharpened portion is irrelevant. Both knives on the leatherman wave are about 2 15/16".

On the BuckTool I carry, both knives are 2 1/2" to the hilt - technically 2.47" for one, and 2.53" for the other if one measures to the 1/100 of an inch - but the length of the sharpened portion or the tip-to-handle length is completely irrelevant, if they're actually enforcing a completely different policy.

Otherwise, they'd have to say, "You can't keep that knife in here if it is over 'x' length," and post the law as it really is, rather than as a blanket prohibition. It's the blanket lie, "No firearms, or dangerous weapons (knives, etc.)" that bothers me.

And of course, as I noted up-thread, that's only the explicit exception to the federal law, leaving the implicit exception, "Subsection (a) shall not apply to the lawful carrying of firearms or other dangerous weapons in a Federal facility incident to [...] lawful purposes,†-- which in CA would be 4" knives.

Dex }:>=-

 

[SemperFi83]

Wow. Dex, we are touchy, aren't we?

Low station syndrome refers to the guy standing behind the counter or at the doorway who has been granted a little power by virtue of his job. He is jealous and petty and will take any opportunity to make your life more difficult just because he can.

It can refer to a security guard, school principal, your boss or anyone else who has a SELF-PERCEPTION of a low station in life.

My typing of that phrase was in no way meant to condone or surrender to its existence. It was merely a statement of fact. The syndrome exists.

Enjoy your tirades against folks about whom you know absolutely nothing. High Road, Huh?

 

[Dex Sinister]

Low station syndrome refers to the guy standing behind the counter or at the doorway who has been granted a little power by virtue of his job. He is jealous and petty and will take any opportunity to make your life more difficult just because he can.

Ahh. 'Tis true. Thanks for clarifying.

Wow. Dex, we are touchy, aren't we?

More like puzzled, really. I said I didn't think that was what you meant. But I then again I was also writing on a computer that was bouncing DNS requests back twice for every time they went through, so I was annoyed at the time.

My apolgies for seeming touchy.

Dex }:>=-

 

[Unlucky]

Wow. Dex, we are touchy, aren't we?

Right back at you, it would seem.

 

[SemperFi83]

Dex:

Thank you for the apology. I too apologize for sounding a little testy. Seems we were both on the same trail with regard to your original post and didn't know it.

Semper Fi!

 

[gander]

18 USC

DEX SINISTER am I correct that you are saying 18 USC says that I can carry a weapon under (3) the lawful carrying of firearms or other dangerous weapons in a Federal facility incident to hunting or other lawful purposes.â€
Presumably carrying a concealed weapon would be a lawful purpose. Can you expand on that or correct my impression

 

[Dex Sinister]

DEX SINISTER am I correct that you are saying 18 USC says that I can carry a weapon under (3) the lawful carrying of firearms or other dangerous weapons in a Federal facility incident to hunting or other lawful purposes.†Presumably carrying a concealed weapon would be a lawful purpose. Can you expand on that or correct my impression?

Well, that's what it says, for all the attention anyone pays to it: Here's the link 18 USC Sec. 930.

Here's an article from The Gun Zone by Rob Firriolo, an attorney, that discusses carry in the Post Office which is covered by the exact same statute.

Dex }:>=-

 

[gander]

18 USC

Thanks, DEX SINISTER, I have saved your post for later reference. This is why I hang out in places like this.

 

[Dex Sinister]

For those who might not wander over to The Gun Zone article, here are Firiolo's test questions to determine whether carry in a federal facility should be legal under 18 USC Sec. 930:

A simple test of whether one may legally carry in a [federal facility or] Post Office could involve answering four questions:

1. Is it illegal for me to carry a handgun on the street outside the post office?
2. Is there a state or local law prohibiting carry in a post office?
3. Am I violating the terms of my CCW permit by carrying inside a post office?
4. Am I going to commit a crime or engage in some unlawful activity once inside the facility?[/list=1]
   If one answers "no" to all four questions, it seems that one falls within the exception to the federal ban on carrying in a federal facility. The answer to the first three questions seeks to resolve whether one is engaged in the "lawful carrying" of a firearm. The answer to the final question seeks to resolve whether one is carrying "incident to ... lawful purposes."

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   All the usual caveats against considering legal analysis as legal advice apply here.
   
   Dex }:>=-