The ''intimidation'' factor?

[P95Carry]

Ok -- part tongue in cheek - part ways serious!!

Semi auto .... you can rack it and chamber a round ... or at least .. make the noise of same. Maybe tho just ''click-click'' as hammer pulled back to full cock.

Shottie .. no need to explain the music of the racked pump 870!!

Revo?? .... more of a prob! If fully stoked ,....... only intimidation factor is the ''click-click'' as cyl rotates and hammer locks back ... leaving you with a very ''sensitive'' weapon if finger near trigger ... at least - arguably more so than the other two examples. Hmmm .. maybe not.

So - if Mr BG is within auditory range .. what will most increase his ''pucker factor'' ..... shottie is my bet but .... how much does gun mechanical sound have to do with deterrance I wonder???

 

[geekWithA.45]

Well, I think you're right on with the auditory bit, a wheely clicking back isn't as dramatic as the other sounds.

Visually, however, it's a different story.

A buddy of mine & I pulled out our collection of handguns, and we each aimed them in a mirror, while our wives voted on what was most intimidating visually.

The big .454 wheelgun won by a wide margin.

 

[longtom4570]

When i was in the Coast Guard our warning shot was racking the action on our shot gun

 

[Standing Wolf]

I have a hunch the mechanical sounds would be considerably less intimidating than the sight of the business end of a gun in the steady hands of a law-abiding American citizen, especially one who says, "Face down on the ground. Spread your legs wide. Lock your hands behind your neck."

 

[P95Carry]

True SW v- true .. the visual on a big bore ''rifled tunnel'' does have a magic - all of its own!!

 

[jar]

the low growl of the dog somewhere in the dark.

 

[JShirley]

I don't believe in "intimidation factor". The BG will have fractions of a second to cease aggressive action from presentation to fire. If I don't have cause to produce a firearm, I won't. If I have cause, it'll be in the process of aquire and fire.

John

 

[Byron Quick]

Reminds me of people discussing the intimidation factor of various weapons.

Yep, I was so intimidated by his knife that I shot him until all my magazines were dry. I was in fear of my life.

Yep, that BG was so intimidated when I racked the slide of my shotgun that he tossed a hand grenade in my direction.

I'm not coming out with a firearm unless I've legal reason to use it. The first notice that the BG will have of such is "BOOM" if their nervous system can still perceive sound.

I'm not a cop. I'm not holding folk at gunpoint.

Playing at intimidation will get you killed.

 

[NukemJim]

how much does gun mechanical sound have to do with deterrance I wonder???

Depends on the individual. Are they EPD, high on amphetamines or coke, drunk, wanting to be shot/killed, deaf etc...

You are most likely to have only very short time to produce firearm and fire if your life is being threatened. Putting two additional steps (#1 make noise by racking slide, cocking or whatever, #2waiting to see how the badguy/girl reacts ) does not seem to be a good idea to me.

I'm not coming out with a firearm unless I've legal reason to use it. The first notice that the BG will have of such is "BOOM" if their nervous system can still perceive sound.

Agreed with the above

NukemJim

 

[Preacherman]

I think Clint Smith said it well (from this article):

You can say ‘stop’ or ‘alto’ or use any other word you think will work, but I’ve found that a large bore muzzle pointed at someone’s head is pretty much the universal language.

 

[Tamara]

So - if Mr BG is within auditory range .. what will most increase his ''pucker factor''

The sound of the shot that just centerpunched him.

 

[Edward429451]

I don't believe in "intimidation factor". The BG will have fractions of a second to cease aggressive action from presentation to fire. If I don't have cause to produce a firearm, I won't. If I have cause, it'll be in the process of aquire and fire.

Well said. It's good to not have to shoot them, but once presentation occurs they better choose fast to be intimidated or not. ;-)

I had one incident where my pistol left it's holster against a human being and thank god he was intimidated enough to back down. I drew to low ready cause I wasn't sure if he was reaching for a weapon. I wasn't trying to intimidate him. His behavior drove my actions, and saved him. There was nothing loud about pulling a 1911 to low ready.

Intimidation works but I don't count on it. There's too many emotionless people walking around.

 

[Phil in Seattle]

All I know is looking at the business end is never a good place to be.

 

[RVSinOK]

I agree with most of the "I'm not going to intimidate. If I need the gun it's going to be blazing" comments, but there is another scenario to consider. If someone is on the other side of the door and trying to get in, I'd bet racking the shotgun would be enough intimidation to stop a big majority of them! If you're already face to face, then it's too late for intimidation, but there are times that it may help.

 

[7.62FullMetalJacket]

Since my autos and shotgun are loaded, I will not Eject live rounds to make noise.

I will PROject live rounds to make noise and a sucking chest wound.

If he can here the revolver rotating in double-action pull, then he can think about an underwear change, maybe twice after the BOOM.

 

[Zundfolge]

I don't have one but ...


http://www.crimsontrace.com/letter/iraqletter.html

Often we are faced with tense situations where the "little red dot" makes the difference between the use of deadly force or the power of intimidation. Even with the language barrier the little red dot speaks volumes for us.

 

[7.62FullMetalJacket]

P95 Carry had a good thread on the Crimson Trace a few weeks ago.

I like visual. Visual is good. Visual keeps me locked and cocked.

 

[El Tejon]

Intimidation a la Hollywood=target indicator for BG!

Sounds cool on a movie set, but I'm allergic to flying metal.

Get low, Hollywood.

 

[Sean Smith]

I'm not interested in intimidation. Based on their behavior, either somebody needs shooting, or they don't. Furthermore, racking the slide of your pistol is just silly... it should already have a round in the chamber.

Also be aware of laws against "brandishing" weapons.

 

[TonyB]

A cop friend of my Father was talking about intimidation factors in the"hood."He said the only gun that stops them in their tracks is as AR15....hard to believe..I'd be more afraid of that 12gauge....with the AR he's actually have to be able to aim.......
At the class I took for my Pistol permit,the guy said the sound of a pump action shotgun racking is universal for"wrong house".......me I'm in stealth mode.....the only sound the BG is likly to hear is....Bang...bang.....followed by Satan saying "welcome to hell,may I take you coat?"

 

[grampster]

Many years ago my partner and I (leo days) walked into a local tavern where a building wide brawl was taking place. Partner had an M1 carbine with the stock sawed off to a pistol grip, 2-30 round bananna magazines taped together. As we stepped into the room, partner racked a round into his "intimidator" and a voice shouted, "Muthascratcher has a machiiiiine guuuun"........The room emptied, pronto. Brawl over!

 

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[JShirley]

Cute.

 

[foghornl]

My only warning shot/intimidation sound is the "Snick!" of the 1911-A1 safety being set to 'fire' mode.

 

[Quartus]

Hmmm. Is it possible that the desireability of using audible intimidation could depend on the situation?




Nah. Dumb idea. One size fits all.