The next gun on the banned list

[Soybomb]

I look forward to seeing them, I didn't think it could do it. Please include some details on what you had supporting the vest, distance, vest brand/label, etc.

 

[PTK]

Can do! It's an American Body Armor brand vest, IIIa (as stated), in a "The Uniform Carrier". Distance, support, etc., to be determined later at the range. I intend to be at least 10 yards but not much further as that's about the range I tested it at before. I will fire a few shots and take a photo after each shot.

 

[General Geoff]

Remember that it should be backed by something dense and relatively soft, like modelling clay, for full support under fire (you probably know this, but just making sure).

 

[PTK]

I think I may have to go buy some clay.... I doubt phone books would be a valid test as they're too hard.

 

[General Geoff]

soaking wet phone books (maybe wrapped in plastic) would probably do fine..

 

[PTK]

I'll do so then. I have a stack of phone books anyway as I like to shoot my silenced .22 pistol here now and then.

Clarification: I'll be using un-used phonebooks for this test.

 

[mekender]

that law would also ban the CZ 52 and its ammo, because *gasp* that stuff will go through kevlar

 

[PTK]

That it will (also from experience)

 

[PTK]

The creek we go to was closed today. I will be trying again this coming weekend. This also gives me time to get proper clay.

Merry Christmas!

 

[Soybomb]

Sounds great, if you've got the cz52 too still it'd be neat to see a shot or two from it against the armor as well. I wouldn't expect either to be able to defeat 3a. Distance shouldn't be a big deal short of muzzle contact. Any idea what line of armor that is of that brand? It'd be neat to know if its kevlar, twaron, zylon, etc.

 

[mekender]

cz52 will at least punch through kevlar helmets...

http://theboxotruth.com/docs/bot29_3.htm (bottom two pics and next page)

 

[robsc]

.22mag and .17hmr will also penetrate kevlar vests. Body perspiration/sweat causes kevlar to deteriorate/break down. Are the vests being used in penetration tests new, never worn vests?

 

[Junkyard Dog]

I don't think that a specific gun will be targeted. I think that they
will go after private sales. I think that they will want every sale to
go through an FFl That way everything is on record. A new AWB
will limit the magazine capabilaties to the old 10 rounds and there
will be no sunset. Just my .02 Sorry didn't mean to get OT

 

[Samuraigg]

If you want to know the next guns on the ban list take a look at the bills that are being proposed. HR 1022 is a pretty fringe proposal that I really don't see going anywhere. If it didn't gain traction after VT it won't now.

I think what we will see, if anything, will be a straightforward reauthorization of the old AWB, except maybe without a sunset.

 

[.cheese.]

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