Patocazador
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I love that Bisley. Sweet shooter with that configuration I'll bet.
The RUGER OLD ARMY Club
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J-Bar
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OK Cane, time for the background on that remarkable Bisley ROA. Give us all 4 W's! And post a photo of it cocked please...I wanna see the hammer nose of that baby and how close the hammer spur comes to the backstrap.
'K, i was a stock ROA I bought NIB last year. I sent it off to Alan Harton in Houston TX. He has done several action jobs for me, both open tops and Ruger Vaqueros. He obtained the correct grip frame (interestingly enough, my single six, original vaquero, new model vaquero, and blackhawk bisley grips are all the same size.) Polished it, and had to fabricate the hammer, then blued the grip frame. The grips came from http://grashornsgunworks.com/ who has done several grips for me. I'll try to post a cocked picture tomorrow.
J-Bar
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Thank you!!
Yeah, Patrick Grashorn does nice work. I have his elk grips on a Colt Diamondback .38 and it's a classy combination.
SUMIKITO
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Bisley grip frame ROA .........
Nice Nice Nice At long last a Bisley grip frame Old Army ! And with a Bisley hammer! Now if someone would come up with a Bird's Head grip frame Old Army, that would complete the collection of the Ruger Old Army Club. As it stands now, the Roa club has the finest collection of Old Army's anywhere. Great gun Cane !
Nice Nice Nice At long last a Bisley grip frame Old Army ! And with a Bisley hammer! Now if someone would come up with a Bird's Head grip frame Old Army, that would complete the collection of the Ruger Old Army Club. As it stands now, the Roa club has the finest collection of Old Army's anywhere. Great gun Cane !
dickydalton
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Joining a new gang is spooky.....
may I?
may I?
J-Bar
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Looks like you be are well heeled!
dickydalton
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Thank You Sir
These are a few of more and I'm proud of them.
These are a few of more and I'm proud of them.
SUMIKITO
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Cane: You mean $575.00 each? Or rather $575.00 for both? If for both, then that would be a steal. If on the other hand, for each, then thats something else, unless they were in like new, well taken care of condition. For both? As always, all the very best.
If on the other hand, for each, then thats something else, unless they were in like new, well taken care of condition. For both? As always, all the very best.Sumika
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J-Bar
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Nice! But I think you need a pair on that plate. Or is it pear....?
dickydalton
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Does anyone know
what's up with Belt Mountain? Their listed phone number goes to a fax an I want one of their quick change kits.
what's up with Belt Mountain? Their listed phone number goes to a fax an I want one of their quick change kits.
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SUMIKITO
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Cane: Thanks cane, kinda got confused for the moment there. They've really gone up nowadays. Hard to find some good deals on them this past few months. Got to keep what we have. No telling what the future holds. All the best again.
First time at the range with new to me ROA
Hi gents,
What a great thread. Trying to read each page and learn from the wealth of knowledge here.
3 months after picking up my old army, finally had a chance to get it out and shoot it! Life has been crazy. Locally, I picked up some hornady .457 balls, remington no. 10 caps (this was all they had), wads, and triple7. I shot a cylinder of 35 gr loads with a wad between the ball and powder. Then, a cylinder of just under 40 gr with no wad. I got nice groups, although my POI is about 2 inches high at 20 yards with my rear sight bottomed out.
Forgive my inexperience, but this is my first time shooting a cap and ball, or any black powder firearm. Is it common for the caps to basically blow apart and then fall off as the cylinder is rotated? I had a few get stuck between the rear of the cylinder and the frame, after firing. I was able to rotate the cylinder with a little force and clear them. However, after firing 6 shots, the cylinder became hard to turn and "scratchy" even though there was no visible debris behind it. I took the cylinder out, and noticed something I hadn't noticed before, which is that the metal around the nipples appears to be peened over a little bit, causing some raised, somewhat sharp edges. I'm assuming it was like this when I bought it-- again, my inexperience showing that I didn't notice it at the time. I also noticed that the top edge of the pawl has been rounded off.
What do you guys think about this? Sounds like I could buy a replacement pawl easily enough. Not sure about the cylinder. Thanks in advance...
Hi gents,
What a great thread. Trying to read each page and learn from the wealth of knowledge here.
3 months after picking up my old army, finally had a chance to get it out and shoot it! Life has been crazy. Locally, I picked up some hornady .457 balls, remington no. 10 caps (this was all they had), wads, and triple7. I shot a cylinder of 35 gr loads with a wad between the ball and powder. Then, a cylinder of just under 40 gr with no wad. I got nice groups, although my POI is about 2 inches high at 20 yards with my rear sight bottomed out.
Forgive my inexperience, but this is my first time shooting a cap and ball, or any black powder firearm. Is it common for the caps to basically blow apart and then fall off as the cylinder is rotated? I had a few get stuck between the rear of the cylinder and the frame, after firing. I was able to rotate the cylinder with a little force and clear them. However, after firing 6 shots, the cylinder became hard to turn and "scratchy" even though there was no visible debris behind it. I took the cylinder out, and noticed something I hadn't noticed before, which is that the metal around the nipples appears to be peened over a little bit, causing some raised, somewhat sharp edges. I'm assuming it was like this when I bought it-- again, my inexperience showing that I didn't notice it at the time. I also noticed that the top edge of the pawl has been rounded off.
What do you guys think about this? Sounds like I could buy a replacement pawl easily enough. Not sure about the cylinder. Thanks in advance...
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Patocazador
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I don't know about the pawl but the cylinders can be had from Classic Ballistx. http://www.classicballistx.com/
Tell them you're a member of THR Ruger Old Army Club and you'll get a discount.
SUMIKITO
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Blown caps & rounded pawl..........
bri1462: It does happen often with regular caps like Remington. Remington caps are very reliable but are a bit thinner in construction than other brands. Thats why they are so reliable. Its thinner construction makes them easier to seat, easier to set off, etc. Thats not really something to worry about. Going to CCI magnum caps could solve that little issue as they are a bit thicker in construction. Just make sure you got them pushed all the way to the nipples edge with a little wooden dowel to prevent a misfire. No harm in trying. Has worked for me before. On your rounded pawl, could have happened before with the previous owner of your pistol if he liked to spin the cylinder fast like russian roulette. That would round-off your pawl in a hurry! As long as it does not skip a beat, for now, nothing to worry about. The ROA locks up early upon cocking and rotation to account for wear on the pawl. Enjoy your pistol!
bri1462: It does happen often with regular caps like Remington. Remington caps are very reliable but are a bit thinner in construction than other brands. Thats why they are so reliable. Its thinner construction makes them easier to seat, easier to set off, etc. Thats not really something to worry about. Going to CCI magnum caps could solve that little issue as they are a bit thicker in construction. Just make sure you got them pushed all the way to the nipples edge with a little wooden dowel to prevent a misfire. No harm in trying. Has worked for me before. On your rounded pawl, could have happened before with the previous owner of your pistol if he liked to spin the cylinder fast like russian roulette. That would round-off your pawl in a hurry! As long as it does not skip a beat, for now, nothing to worry about. The ROA locks up early upon cocking and rotation to account for wear on the pawl. Enjoy your pistol!
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Bri,,i cant tell if anything is wrong from your pics.Does your gun seem to lock up and be timed right? I am not sure what you mean about the metal being peened around the nipples.The nipples themselves or are you talking about the round notches that the hand rotates the cylinder with?From what i can make out it all looks good.If it is a little rough around where the hand goes on the back of the cylinder you can just lightly smooth it up with some wet or dry sand paper,thats on of the nice things about stainless,you can do minor touch ups without ruining your finish. Also,,it is normal for the caps to blow apart.There are things you can do to make that a bit better like certin replacement nipples that have a smaller hole in them.That may help some. ROA's are as tough and bullet proof as any cap and ball revolver there is.There are a good many guys here that can maybe help you,im not very good at getting across what i want to say when typing.You have a great gun and i dont think you have any problems from what i can see though.
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