There is any good product short of Windex or hot water to clean from corrosive ammo??
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Seriously: try RB-17.
It makes cleaning a corrosive-primer or black powder cartridge gun like just cleaning a regular gun. It works really well, and it's a gel, so it doesn't get into the action like a liquid does.
I am not paid by them. I've never even bought the stuff: I've gotten samples of it from a range where I used to be on the board of directors and I've been really impressed. That range was 1000 miles from here, and I have zero vested interest in promoting RB 17, the range pro shop there, or anything else.
When I run out, I WILL buy some.
It makes cleaning a corrosive-primer or black powder cartridge gun like just cleaning a regular gun. It works really well, and it's a gel, so it doesn't get into the action like a liquid does.
I am not paid by them. I've never even bought the stuff: I've gotten samples of it from a range where I used to be on the board of directors and I've been really impressed. That range was 1000 miles from here, and I have zero vested interest in promoting RB 17, the range pro shop there, or anything else.
When I run out, I WILL buy some.
aka108
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I've always used the liquid detergent that goes in electriic dishwashers mixed with hot water and then rinsed with plain hot water. Works great.
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windsheild washer fluid does a good job. get the winter mix it has more alky in it. and it has some ammonia. cheap too, I use it on my BP guns. then lube when dry of course.
windex (or any light ammonia) DOES do something.
Hatcher's notebook details how ammonia came into use. It was determined that was needed to remove the salts was water (Bureau of Mines did the testing). Using water didn't sit well with most riflemen and it was discovered ammonia (a cleaner) would do the same thing. Ammonia is chemically similar to water. Concentrations or exposure required to remove copper fouling are higher but it will also do that.
Hatcher's notebook details how ammonia came into use. It was determined that was needed to remove the salts was water (Bureau of Mines did the testing). Using water didn't sit well with most riflemen and it was discovered ammonia (a cleaner) would do the same thing. Ammonia is chemically similar to water. Concentrations or exposure required to remove copper fouling are higher but it will also do that.
I wish this thread would be closed on a factual note...
Ammonia is not really close to water. It is a gas at room temperature. I guess it does slightly hydrogen bond as a liquid and is polar but it is liquid at such a low temp you could not clean a rifle with it.
Ammonia cleaners are 98% or so water so maybe that is what you mean? Ammonia the molecule (as in NH3) has a boiling point of -33 degrees C so I don't see how it could be used to effectively clean a rifle. Again I will repeat ammonia does not do anything besides the normal "dirt" and organic cleaning but soap can do the same thing. Water is the only thing that removes the KCL salt, alcohol can also be used as it is a polar solvent.
Ammonia cleaners are 98% or so water so maybe that is what you mean?
Exactly, most think of ammonia as the liquid in jugs at the supermarket and no need to confuse the issue by informing everyone it's a gas. "Household Ammonia" was what Hatcher was referring.
There are other things can remove corrosive salts but none are any better than water.
Exactly, most think of ammonia as the liquid in jugs at the supermarket and no need to confuse the issue by informing everyone it's a gas. "Household Ammonia" was what Hatcher was referring.
There are other things can remove corrosive salts but none are any better than water.
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If corrosive ammo is so bad how come all these old war rifles haven't rotted away by now since I'm sure when in use on the battlefield the last thing on anyones mind was washing down their weapons. Excuse the dumb question just want to know
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You know all those surplus rifles that are out there with 'sewer pipe' bores? Corrosive primers is how they got that way.
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If I just clean my 91/30 like normal and use hoppes 9 I should be fine or is there something else I should be using.
Mil-C-372 Rifle Bore Cleaner was tested against corrosive primers. However, a search of DoDiss http://assist.daps.dla.mil/quicksearch/basic_profile.cfm?ident_number=2188 (if that does not work, go to quick search and type in 372 in document number) shows that the latest revision of "Mil PRF 372D" is not tested against corrosive residue.
I regularly use flea market Mil C 372 as a powder solvent, I am down to my last two gallons of a flea market purchase of four gallons, but I don't trust it as a corrosive residue remover. I cleaned a Mosin out with the stuff, came back a week or two later and there was rust in the bore.
Never had that experience with hot soapy water. Hot soapy water works great.
But change may be coming. A couple of blackpowder shooters were using Windex with vinegar to clean out their barrels and cartridges at the range.
If it will work on blackpowder, it will work on primer residue.
RaferJanders
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Tide! Hot water, When I was a Saw gunner, I would just get in the Shower with Melissa and a scoop of tide, 15min's of lovin and She was a clean 5.56 firehouse.
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