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What about canes? Buddy of mine used to practice some martial art that used them. Only needs minimal training to be adequate. Plus, people hold the door open for you.
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What about canes? Buddy of mine used to practice some martial art that used them. Only needs minimal training to be adequate. Plus, people hold the door open for you.
scout26
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Thanks everyone for all the advice. Like I said she's a co-worker, she came to me after she moved (because she knows I shoot), but is still "concerned". FOID application is in the mail. OC and personal alarm is on her key chain. Louisville slugger at her home.
GoRon where do you go to shoot ???
Preacherman:
YES. Because of the stupid Illinois FOID law, I can't sell/give/loan her a firearm. If I do I have knowingly and willfully broken the law. If the SHTF with her, then my RKBA is null and void. Yes, I may have saved a fellow human life, but at the cost of my future ability to protect my own family. Because the twisted thing is that if she did use a firearm to defend herself, she would probably be in the clear, since the state legislature overrode the Governors veto of the affirmative defense law. And even this being the northeastern part of Illinois, the last case any States Attorney would press for would be the "Single mom on trial for defending self/kids from abusive husband." That's not going to garner many votes come election time. I, however, would be shark bait and prosecuted like I was a drug selling, gangbanging, child abusing terrorist.
GoRon where do you go to shoot ???
Preacherman:
YES. Because of the stupid Illinois FOID law, I can't sell/give/loan her a firearm. If I do I have knowingly and willfully broken the law. If the SHTF with her, then my RKBA is null and void. Yes, I may have saved a fellow human life, but at the cost of my future ability to protect my own family. Because the twisted thing is that if she did use a firearm to defend herself, she would probably be in the clear, since the state legislature overrode the Governors veto of the affirmative defense law. And even this being the northeastern part of Illinois, the last case any States Attorney would press for would be the "Single mom on trial for defending self/kids from abusive husband." That's not going to garner many votes come election time. I, however, would be shark bait and prosecuted like I was a drug selling, gangbanging, child abusing terrorist.
Waitone
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You people in the PRI have got to shove your legislator's nose into the mess they created.
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Edited after further thought.
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Just be careful. Don't assume that the woman is trustworthy simply because she has a sob story.
Long time lurker...first time poster...
There may be others here who know more, but to the best of my knowledge, Illinois law does offer exceptions to the FOID rules when it comes to touching, handling, and/or shooting firearms. So long as the shooter is "otherwise eligible" to have a FOID, is under the supervision of a FOID holder aged 21 years or older, and is at a shooting range they are legally able to handle or operate a firearm.
This can be found as one of the 15 enumerated exceptions listed with the FOID Act.
430 ILCS 65/2 - section (B) subsection (15).
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilc...tName=Firearm+Owners+Identification+Card+Act.
Each shooting range may have their own rules regarding guests (for insurance or other purposes) but I am sure you can find one that will accomodate you. Take her to the range...give her a lesson...get her FOID processed...and keep tabs on her till it clears. Then you can help her buy a piece and get trained up.
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lysander
There may be others here who know more, but to the best of my knowledge, Illinois law does offer exceptions to the FOID rules when it comes to touching, handling, and/or shooting firearms. So long as the shooter is "otherwise eligible" to have a FOID, is under the supervision of a FOID holder aged 21 years or older, and is at a shooting range they are legally able to handle or operate a firearm.
This can be found as one of the 15 enumerated exceptions listed with the FOID Act.
430 ILCS 65/2 - section (B) subsection (15).
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilc...tName=Firearm+Owners+Identification+Card+Act.
Each shooting range may have their own rules regarding guests (for insurance or other purposes) but I am sure you can find one that will accomodate you. Take her to the range...give her a lesson...get her FOID processed...and keep tabs on her till it clears. Then you can help her buy a piece and get trained up.
Regards,
lysander
HankB
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An observation, not a suggestion: Under the circumstances, if she obtained a firearm from "someone" who it wasn't officially registered to (in order to maintain plausible deniability for the source of said firearm) it would seem that legal liability would be minimal - or in a practical sense, nonexistant - for all parties involved, even if she had to use it before her FOID arrived.
Just be careful. Don't assume that the woman is trustworthy simply because she has a sob story.
Gotta give a +1 to that. I've helped two women with sob stories, and I'll help the next as well. So far though, the truthfulness of those sob stores is batting 50%. (And I don't mean wrong in small ways, I mean wrong in rather material ways).
Help her out (obviously you already are), but don't forget you aren't a first hand witness to any of this stuff. In a gun hell like IL, mistakes can be costly, and the fact is that you only truly know what you see first hand. You know better than we do whether or not she's telling the truth, but always keep it in mind.
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